The M+G+R Foundation
The purpose of this Public Forum is to
publicly respond to and/or
comment upon correspondence
that we may receive from time to time and which is of Universal
in these very unsettling times.
We reserve the right to choose what
questions to address and how to
transcribe the question and/or statement from the correspondence
The identity of the correspondent will be kept confidential except in
case of abusive correspondence which will then be referred to the
From D @ USA
on October 28th - Feast of Sts. Simon and Jude]
Regarding the recent mailing (*)
about Opus Dei activities....
I lived in Spain for 4 years 1994-1998 and then Italy (Siciliy)
1998-2001 and I was shocked at the feeling I received from the local
populations concerning the Catholic Religion and their public lives.
This article doesn't surprise me at all.
I was robbed many many, many
times while in Europe both my home and car. I traveled to
Portugal several times and especially in Portugal I felt the
of God. I loved it there!!!!!!! I was shocked at the behavior of
Priests I saw and knew while in Rome.
How could we expect the children
to be any better? The Catholic Church is losing so many to evangelical
Christians in Europe. The Hierarchy in Rome doesn't seem to care a whit
as long as they get theirs. That's how I saw and see it.
I know this is
no surprise to you. I went to several military Conference of Catholic
Women gatherings in Germany where there were Priests trying to push
Opus Dei. Honestly, I walked out of their seminar quickly when they
started talking as they really gave me the creeps. I didn't even know
why, just felt very strange around me.
the general public you speak to, the words you say ring absolutely true
in every way, as this comes from someone who has no connection to your
site except to look for spiritual guidance beyond the Bible. I have
experienced the things you speak of.
I appreciate all the major efforts done to make and keep this site
running. You can't possibly know the depths of the hearts you reach,
but, you will know when God thanks each one of you personally for your
efforts. DON'T GIVE UP ON US, GOD WON'T.
Your kind words humble us, while, at the same time provide
much needed encouragement - it is a lonely road, but so was calvary...
We pray that our readers appreciate the information contained in your
communication. Almost one has to be there for such reality to
"soak in". During the last "Conclave" miguel de Portugal was in Rome
and he wrote a Trip
. We do not think that many people
believed it, even though it was a second one, the
written in January 2001.
You will be surprised where Portugal "is at" these days with the clergy
leading "the way". The social condition of Spain is beyond description
and Portugal are "importing" it very rapidly.
All continues to get worse because the Faithful has decided that if
they "look the other way" it "will go away". How much we wish that they
would understand the full meaning of Pain
Is the Megaphone that God Uses for the Deaf to Listen to Him
the gravity associated with Denial
Thank you very much for sharing with all of us - here and in the
The mailing D refers to
Quote from article:
Rev. Roy Cimagala writes:
And the more I got to know
Josemaria, the more I got convinced of the consistency between his
words and his deeds. And yes, he can easily throw a spell on you, the
kind that leads you to conversion and self-giving.
When I read St. Paul's "We speak not in
the learned words of human
wisdom, but in the doctrine of the Spirit, comparing spiritual things
with spiritual." (1 Cor 2,12), I think of how St. Josemaria entered my
life and affected it.
The greatest lesson I learned from him is
that loving and achieving
sanctity is just a matter of decision of the heart that can and should
be made at any time and in any place. On the part of God, his grace
never lacks. It's our call.
Comment by The M+G+R Foundation:
His comments, plus the rest of his Opus Dei "commercial" should be
viewed in light of:
In addition to the social and moral condition of Spain - a country Opus
Dei essentially controls:
The "Fundación Santa María" prepared a
Españoles 2005" (Spanish Youth 2005) directed by Pedro
González, Professor of the Universidad Autónoma de
Madrid.. This report was based on a survey of 4,000
Spaniards ranging in age from 15 and 24 years.
Although we - from personal experience - "lived and witnessed" these
results - that tragedy - now there are black-and-white numbers to
confirm it.As if this confirmation were not enough, God granted us the
Grace of having - in the form of a personal letter of the highest
profiled prelate in Spain, Cardinal Rouco Varela - the justification
used by the Church Hierarchy for such abysmal failure.
themselves Catholics (down from 77 % in 1994) (1)
agnostics, atheist or indifferent to religion (up from 22 % in
do not trust the Church
think that the Church is
too wealthy (2)
consider the Church too
antiquated in sexual matters (3)
believe that the Church
helps the poor and the marginalized by society (4)
consider that the
served them for something (little or much - but at least "for
a "Church Wedding" (6)
22 % prefer a civil marriage
16 % prefer union without
immigration should be allowed (8)
would mind living next
door to a person with AIDS ( 25 % would not in 1990) (9)
From SB @ USA
on October 25th ]
Q. May the
peace of Our Lord and Savior be always with you.
In regard to the question of rejected prayers I read the last two
lines of the document entitled "Leaving the Roman Catholic Church".
I tried to keep it in context but came away with the distinct
feeling that you were saying that millions of rosaries and masses are
rejected by God, (and I got the impression) that you meant those of
sinners. I read the text suggested, and still felt that the
context was that God would reject, the prayers of sinners.
I am a sinner. We both know that. I fear each day that
I am not enough.
I wish the Holy Spirit would show me that I am on my way "home",
that my path is the right one. My faith in Jesus is all I'll
have, and while that should be enough, my faith, like me, is
weak. Call it depression, call it self loathing, call it what you
will. I pray for God's direction, and an end to fear. All
of my life, fifty plus years, I held to the Church, and now to have
taken the step I took, to walk away is counter to all I was
taught. It is so hard to stop listening to memories of my
childhood telling me I will burn in hell. We were
"cradle-Catholics" baptized at birth, and confirmed through fear.
We heard of love, but heard a great deal more of hell.
Please pray for us, who have not had visions, nor came to our
faith later in life through inspiration, prayer and thoughtfulness, but
rather through our parents, who didn't know that we prayed late at
night in our fourth grade nightmares that we would be spared the
horrors of martyrdom from communists, atom bombs and then hell because
we ate meat the friday before. I'm sure it sounds foolish.
It does to me, a fifty-three year old man, but that nine year old boy
is still there, and he still knows a fear of God. I pray daily
for his mercy.
Yours in Christ.
First of all, know that the individual who was anointed
miguel de Portugal
was also a
"cradle catholic". So "cradle" that his
maternal grandfather's first cousin was the Cardinal Patriarch of his
country of birth - we share the same name. Thanks be to God
parents did not pay any attention to the scare tactics utilized by the
Church to Evangelize; iun addition he had the witness of a maternal
whose head was always in Heaven while her feet were solidly planted on
Earth and her Rosary always in hand.
Nonetheless - after his first communion at the age of ten, he only
entered a Church for weddings and baptisms. [Granny did not use scare
tactics - she just used much love.]
Now - back to your central question regarding our statement in our
latest document "About
Leaving the Roman Catholic Church"
. We will answer
that with a real life parable.
The scene was at the Parish of Mary,
Help of Christians
in Salamanca, Spain. The time - Holy
Week. The event - communal Viacrucis. Refrain after each
prayer: "Forgive them Lord,
for they are sinners."
To these people and
filling the Churches and Sanctuaries today -
the sinners are "the other ones"; any one else but certainly not themselves
Why most everyone goes to the Holy Communion without ever bothering
Sacrament of Reconciliation
. They seem to have assumed
Mary's Immaculate state....
This type are those whose prayers are ignored by God because their
hands are full of blood [Isaiah
- meaning, they are weighed down
with a multitude of sins [which they conveniently ignore]. Why? Quite
simple. If you always perceived yourself as "clean and smelling like a
rose", would you ever bathe? Of course not! However, those around
you will keep their distance from you and your offensive odor.
Look at the Prodigal Son
the moment he realized that he was a sinner
and turned to the Father, he was on his way to Heaven, yet there was
"some walking" still to do to get back home; however, the Father, Who
had ran to meet him, walked the walk Home with him.
Brother, we regret that you, like millions upon millions of
children of God were brainwashed with demonic
of fear. We still
hear those often repeated words of the self righteous: "I am a God
That is blasphemy! Fearing He Who Is Pure Love? The only "fear" that we
must have is the salutary desire not to offend the One Who Loved us so
much that became
Man to die for us
so that He could take us Home.
Anyone who fears God is
not of God
What part of all of this can't you understand?
Brothers and sisters - this is precisely one of
the key functions
God has called us to fulfill.
Proclaim to one and all that: The Catholic Faith is the one Faith
which has the greatest concentration of Divinely Revealed
Truths. By no means it has them all since God is the only
Plenitude of Truth
. While, at the same time, denounce the
who have, in essence, commandeered the Catholic Church since the days of the
to serve their
very material agendas by keeping the poor souls like you in the chains
of fear. Only satan and his agents would do that!
Pray for God to help you break those chains so that your soul may soar
to meet the Father as He lovingly walks you Home.
From WMP @ USA
on October 21st - Feast of Mary's Visitation]
In reading your answer to one of the
questions, you stated that God said "Thou shalt not Kill" ( obviously
from the 10 commandments) and that "He gave no exceptions
My question: I have heard it
stated many times on the radio from some very knowledgeable
Jewish talk show hosts that the word "KILL" was
mistranslated and should have been MURDER. "Thou shalt not
murder." This can't be true from your answer to JL.
The radio hosts' argument seems
very strong on the face of it, because if someone is going to try to
harm me or my family or I have to go to war, I will do whatever is
necessary to kill or be killed.
God has instilled a very strong will to survive in everyone. What do I
or anyone of our fighting men do in this situation?
Thank you for this wonderful eye and
ear opening site.
May God continue to bless you.
Your kind words Glorify God.
Unfortunately, man is the "Master of Spinning the Facts" and, when it
comes to circumventing the Laws of God, he shines brightly.
To kill, to murder, to commit a homicide [1st degree or 2nd degree],
euthanasia, abortion, ad infinitum means only one thing: Taking an action which will cause/force
the separation of the soul from the body; i.e. cause physical death.
The Roman Catholic Church defends "Just Wars" because they have to
justify the atrocities they committed. The Jews and Muslims will
Spin the Law their way for similar reasons, but, did you notice that
when God freed His people from Egypt He reserved the right to take away
the life of Egyptians? Did you notice that Jesus could have led a
most effective revolt against Rome and free His people from their yoke
yet He did not?
It seems that as the Old Testament progressed, the Spin Masters started
to justify anything and everything they needed to further their
temporal agendas. Note that we do not find wanton killing in the
New Testament. This is because its "writing period" was very
short in comparison with the Old Testament. But not to worry -
Rome took care of that by assuming Divine Powers and killing at will to
further their very temporal agendas.
God IS the Master of Life and Death and woe to those who dare to assume
About self defense? About war? Did not Jesus say through Luke 12:
6 Are not five sparrows sold for two
farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?
7 Yea, the very hairs of
your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: you are of more value
than many sparrows.
8 And I say to you, Whosoever shall confess
me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels
9 But he that shall deny me before men,
shall be denied before the angels of God.
and through Luke 12:
And you shall be betrayed by your parents and brethren, and kinsmen and
friends; and some of you they will put to death.
17 And you shall be hated by all men for my
18 But a hair of your head shall not perish.
19 In your patience you shall possess your
The issue rests upon our level of
Faith. For the wonderful things that Jesus spoke about to take place in
our lives, we must believe. This is
is all about. This
is why it is so important to pray for Faith since only God can give it.
Most of the "Faith" we see around us is "intellectual faith" which will
vanish at the first blow - just wait and see.
That we are "talking through our hat"? Miguel's
life has been
against many times and the attempts will continue to fail until his
appointed time comes. What security measures does he use? Simple
common sense and "a very open ear to God" to make sure that he takes
whatever evasive action God determines he must take in a particular
case. In others - he knows nothing until after the attempt has
taken place and God handled it without m de P's action. That this
sounds unbelievable? Well, doesn't the resurrection of a dead body
sound unbelievable too? It is just a matter of Faith and the
"Power it packs."
What about those who go to war? "Father, forgive them for they do not
know what they do." because we assure you, if a human being knew how
serious it is to take someone's life, he/she would prefer to die in the
other one's place. This is how bad we know (not believe, but
know) it is.
For more on Biblical Writings you may wish to review our documents
Biblical Literalism - Part 1
From BB @ USA
on October 18th]
Q. Thank you so much for forwarding this information to me.
[The Link to "this information" will be found in our response.]
It's ironic that I've been contemplating whether or not to send a
letter to the Apostolic Nuncio in Washington, DC to voice my outrage to
a sex/ed Catholic elementary school program, Growing in Love (Filth).
I've sent 6 emails to different "higher ups" in the Archdiocese and
have gotten no response. The publishers (Harcourt Books) are
basically going to indoctrinate Catholic children in my
diocese to accept Homosexuality, to teach lies and confusion
and believe other inconsistencies relating to the Catechism
of the Catholic Church while leading them like lemmings to hell.
The administrators of the school has informed the parents this is
"mandated" by the Archbishop.
publishers also produce abortion manuals. Next my letters will be
sent to the local press.
I finally "see"
how God is using me !
Bless your work,
Your kind words Glorify God Whom we try to serve in spite
Perhaps one of the things God wanted to achieve with our mailing
to tell you
(and others - as
we publish your letter) "Right on!"
and "Keep at it, I need your voice!"
The Faithful cannot fully understand how important each one of the
Elect is to God - preciously important - and how intimately He is
involved with every breath we take.
I wish we could impart that knowledge to each one of you as a
"spiritual transfusion" - life, the whole world!, would them seem
totally different to each one of you.
Many continued Blessings!
From Name Withheld
on October 17th]
We chose to remove this posting (addressed to "m de p the pious")
in consideration of the possibility that the writer may not be mentally
balanced, in which case, our response would be a sin against Charity.
submitted @ ?
on October 14th]
Q. I would
just like to know if
this appearance of Mary and everything she says has been acknowledged
and accepted by the Roman Catholic Church.
We are glad that you asked.
as well as their Official Site in French at: http://www.nd-la-salette.com/
Take note - A Basilica was built by the Roman Catholic
Church in the 19th century honoring the Apparition. "The Basilica
of Our Lady of La Salette
was begun in
1852, completed in 1865, and designated a basilica in 1879. It is a
large, rather austere church, with a facade flanked by two strong
That is the best proof that we can give you that La Salette has
been approved by the Roman Catholic Church since 1852.
Many within the Roman Catholic Church are trying to downplay La Salette
and even discredit it. Why? If you read the awesome Message
of La Salette
, which encompasses from that time in mid 19th
Century to now, the End of These Times, you will find gems such as:
priests, ministers of my Son, the priests, by their wicked
lives, by their irreverence and their impiety in the celebration of the
holy mysteries, by their love of money, their love of honors and
pleasures, the priests have become cesspools of impurity. Yes, the
priests are asking for vengeance, and vengeance is hanging over their
heads. Woe to the priests and to those dedicated to God who by their
unfaithfulness and their wicked lives are crucifying my son again! The
sins of those dedicated to God cry out towards Heaven and call for
vengeance, and now vengeance is at their door, for there is no one left
to beg mercy and forgiveness for the people. There are no more generous
souls, there is no one left worthy of offering a stainless sacrifice to
the Eternal God for the sake of the world.
seasons will be altered, the earth will produce nothing
but bad fruit, the stars will lose their regular motion, the moon will
only reflect a faint reddish glow. Water and fire will give the earth's
globe convulsions and terrible earthquakes which will swallow up
mountains, cities.... Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of
Of course, just like other parts of the Message, the above has also
been made manifest with a vengeance, which brings us up to the one who
claims to be the Pope, yet, he is only the last stepping stone to
the concluding part of the message:
is the time, the abyss is opening. Here is the king of
kings of darkness, here is the Beast with his subjects, calling himself
the Savior of the world. He will rise proudly into the air to go to
Heaven. He will be smothered by the breath of the Archangel Saint
Michael. He will fall, and the earth, which will have been in a
continuous series of convolutions for three days, will open up its
fiery bowels; and he will have plunged for eternity with all his
followers into the everlasting chasms of hell. And then water and fire
will purge the earth and consume all the works of men's pride and all
will be renewed. God will be served and glorified."
From JD @ Portugal
on October 11th]
Q. First I would
like to thank you by your website that give much comfort in these
troubled times we are well into.
I write to you because I feel in the last days a great spiritual and
physical (stress) unrest. I believe that face to the current situation
with the nuclear test(s)? by North Korea the Step Nº1 will
probably come in a matter of a few days. In this situation it is hard
to perform the every day routine and the sensation of impotence is
enormous. I guess just wanted to share with you these thoughts.
Your kind words Glorify God, Whom we strive to serve.
We must be ready for the nuclear holocaust - and worse - to take place
at any time - literally, "at any time"; however, we must go on with our
daily lives while giving top priority to our efforts to improve
relationship with God. Then, He will take care of the rest.
According to miguel de Portugal, Step No. 1
the events when compared with what will take place thereafter. So much
so that some people have told him "I hope that I go on the first
wave." However, calm reigns in his heart. Why?
The answer is as simple as all the solutions from God.
First, he continually strives to improve his relationship with God -
without fanaticism nor hysteria. Second, he strives to do all he can
reasonably do to fulfill his function. Then, the rest is up to God.
"Reasonably" means with abandonment BUT NOT
That is really all that God has wanted all along. That is the central
message that Jesus delivered and organized religion twisted to the
point where people feel like you are feeling now and not the peace that
they must feel if they knew that they are
safely in the Hands
Almighty and Merciful God.
What can we do to get "from here (panic) to there (peace)"? You may
wish to review and act upon "What can we do? - Part 1 and Part
well as meditate upon the Divine
that we strive to publish every
Be at peace, João - All IS indeed Well!
From Kirk @ USA
on October 10th - A day after the 1st Nuclear Test by North Korea]
Today at the exhibition I was attending there was a man handing
out tiny booklets called "Personal Bibles". He was a ragged
individual, and stood there holding them out in his hand for
wanted one. As I walked by, I took one... and
hurried on. I opened it about one block away to see what was
there was only a sampling of verses, with no reference to any church or
Upon returning that direction 15 minutes later, I watched him
for a few minutes from the other side of the street as he held out one
booklet for 10 minutes with
no takers. I went across the street and
confronted him, asking him who he was representing or working
reply was - I think - the correct one: "I only work for my Lord, Jesus
I looked down, and his little duffel bag was filled entirely
with those booklets... it nearly brought me to tears. I took his
held it, while thanking him, realizing that he was really there on his
own time and money. So I ask you for this... Prayers
for that haggard
individual, who seems more genuine than most and apparently has
priorities in order, and who appears to be one of the few
working in the trenches of everyday life to carry the message.
It just confirms to me that most people would prefer to have "their
dished out to them in a fancy, opulent "house of God" than from a poor
man who speaks the truth in a subtle way on the street... It is
Thank you for sharing that very poignant story about the
"peddler" - You might have met Jesus Christ in person.. Let
us not forget several incidents described in the Holy Scriptures, for
(a) The Archangel Raphael
in the Book of Tobias.
(b) Jesus appearing in an unrecognizable for on the way to
Emmaus. [Luke 24: 13 - 31]
fish bake hosted by Jesus by the seaside [John 21: 1- 14]
(d) "Let the charity of the brotherhood abide
2 And hospitality do not
forget; for by this some, being not aware of it, have entertained
angels." : [Hebrews 13: 2]
(e) Mary Magdalene not recognizing Jesus immediately after
His Resurrection [John
In addition, we assure you
- without a doubt - that miguel de Portugal has met Jesus many times in
various humble (and suffering) manifestations - unrecognizable as the
Lord of Lords and King of Kings at the time. However, they were
unforgettable moments which were seared in his soul. How many "beggars"
would not accept a cent from him but would accept it from others. How
many beggars has anyone seen to give money to the one who - by all
worldly appearances - should be giving him alms? In
one case it was the Blessed Virgin Mary Herself.
Miguel could write a book
about these experiences, yet, in
every case, he was not aware of what was taking place at the
moment. Why? The God-given "Test" would have been invalid should he
have known that the person in need - the ragged Bible "peddler", for
example - was Jesus Christ Himself.
It sounds that you "passed" that Test with an A +.
From G @ USA
on October 6th - First
Friday and Traditional Catholic
Church Day of Penance ]
Q. Hello, first
off, I love your website. And I thank you.
was wondering where you got the info about the "No World War III"
statement. I cannot find it anywhere on their website.
Maybe I'm just
missing it. Thank you for your time.
what are your thoughts on the Bayside Prophecies? Mary talks
every subject from MTV to Russia still secretly existing and plotting
behind the scenes. It's seems a bit too much---too many words by
It's very tough to keep a
clear mind with the truths, and the intentional falsehoods to distort
and confuse the faithful. I don't know what's right or
Enjoy your night.
Your kind words Glorify God.
You must be making reference to a document we recently published with
the title About the
Manifestations in Garabandal -
Footnote No. 1 of said document shows you exactly where we
obtained such information.
Regarding Bayside, we have addressed that issue on our Public Forum
December 15, 2005.
In reference to: "
tough to keep a
clear mind with the truths, and the intentional falsehoods to distort
and confuse the faithful." - You are absolutely right and what we try
to do in this area is to lead the people of God to continual communion
with His Holy Spirit. When the Holy Spirit of God takes "full time
residence" in our hearts, deception is only possible if God Wills it
and, if God Wills it, so be it! In the meantime we suggest that
you read our documents What
Can We Do ? Part 1
and What Can We
From NS @ USA
on October 6th - First
Friday and Traditional Catholic
Church Day of Penance ]
Q. Please, I am looking for the Prayer against
Satan and the Rebel Angels", published by order of Pope Leo XIII.
Please instruct me how to go about it.
From C @ USA
on October 6th - First
Friday and Traditional Catholic
Church Day of Penance ]
re-reading your document on the manifestation of the Antichrist, a thought came to me. This is in reference
to what I would term "Ratzinger's death-wish" in reference to his words
concerning Islam, which have attracted much attention globally, and
resulted in the issuance of a fatwa (death sentence) against him by
fundamentalist Islamic leaders.
What is curious about this is the obvious and readily predictable
reaction to his words, as
well as his recent private meeting(s) with Dr. Henry Kissinger, who is
also advising the Bush administration on the Gulf War.
So in light of that perceived death wish, I remembered a line of
Scripture from Chapter 13 of Revelations: "And I saw one of his heads,
as if it was slain to death: and its death wound was healed. And all
the earth was in admiration after the beast". Immediately following
this in the text, the Beast comes to even greater power and acclaim,
and shows his "teeth".
Am I anywhere near close to understanding what I sense here correctly?
If I am, then Christ be praised, as I am nothing of myself.
You state: "What is curious about this is the obvious
and readily predictable reaction to his words". We have stated many times
that if we were asked what else can the Vatican and the current US
Administration do to precipitate the events of the Apocalypse,
miguel de Portugal's answer would be: Nothing! Both camps are making
sure - although unaware of it
- that Step No. 1 of the Sequence
of Events take place and that all
"the ducks are lined up" so that the remainder prophecies are
fulfilled. This is what the period of 42 years and months - on
both accounts - is all about. What is happening is also exemplified in
the book of Job, Chapter 1, verses 6 through 12 .
Regarding the "And I
saw one of his heads, as if it was slain to death: and its death
wound was healed. And all the earth was in admiration after the
That is better represented by the resurgence of
Russia as a controlling world power.
Also keep in mind that Ratzinger is just the "Master of Ceremonies" for
the presentation of the False Christ
- satan passing himself as
in His Second coming. Only the AntiChrist
possibly do so.
You are close in understanding the complexity of the horrendous reality
which faces the world and which is denied by most - a denial that will
cost them dearly
From Various @ World
on September 30th]
Regarding your allegation that a Belgian Parliamentary Commission
investigated the Opus Dei as well as other groups they considered sects
- could you expound on the subject matter by giving hard facts about
said very serious allegation?
Through the Grace of God, one of our collaborators has
found great detail on said matter. We rae more than happy - if not
eager - to pass it on so that the doubting Thomases are convinced that
we do not "talk through the proverbial hat".
In Belgium, the Belgian Parliamentary
Commission on Cults submitted a report to the Belgian Parliament in 1997. The report differentiated in its
conclusions between three types of "sectes":
- the sect in strict sense (la secte strictu sensu). a group
distinguished by a particular belief which is a normal expression of
- harmful sectarian organizations (Les organisations sectaires
defined as a group with real or pretended philosophic or religious
vocation which in its organisation or its practices includes harmful
illegal activities, harms individuals or society or interferes with
- criminal associations (Les associations de malfaiteurs)
defined as criminal organisations (frauds, money launderers, drug
traffickers, pedophile rings, etc.) using a cult-like or
pseudo-religious front to disguise their criminal practices. 2(pg. 99-101)
The report included a list of 189 organizations which had come
up during the investigation, including the Amish
Mission in Belgium, Buddhism,
several Catholic groups such as Opus
Dei, some Evangelical Christian denominations, Hasidic Judaism, Quakers, and Satanists,
but stated clearly immediately before the listing:
- "This listing does not constitute a specific position or a
by the commission. The fact that a movement is listed here, even if at
the instigation of an official instance, does not signify that the
commission regards it as a sect, let alone as dangerous. (Cette
énumération ne constitue donc ni une prise de position,
ni un jugement
de valeur de la part de la commission. Ainsi, le fait pour un mouvement
d'y figurer, même si c'est à l'initiative d'une instance
signifie pas que pour la commission, il soit une secte, et a fortiori
qu'il soit dangereux.) 2(pg. 227)
But more important, most of the commission’s report, including the
above mentioned list (tableau synoptique), was rejected by the Belgian
Parliament in the plenary session on May 7, 1997. Out of the
670-pages-report, the Belgian Parliament approved only the section
“conclusions and recommendations” (pages 209-226).3
The Quakers complained to Deputy Prime Ministers about their
inclusion on the list, pointed out their humanitarian aid programs, and
requested to see the evidence against them which had been presented the
federal police in a closed session to the Parliamentary Commission.
They were unsuccessful in their appeal.
As a consequence of the advice of the commission to the parliament,
a law was accepted to observe cults that possibly break the law. This
resulted in the foundation of a centre on June 2,
1998 for the information and advice on
harmful cults, located in Brussels.
Opus Dei is listed there, on pp. 260 and 261 (listings in French
on 260, and Flemish on 261). Their doctrine is described in
"Catholicisme intégral et élitiste".
For our Index on Opus Dei
related documents Click
We sincerely appreciate the assistance received on this matter.
Forum - September 2006 - Edition Files
- 2016 by The M+G+R
Foundation. All rights reserved. However, you may freely reproduce and
distribute this document as long as: (1) Appropriate credit is given as
to its source; (2) No changes are made in the text without prior
written consent; and (3) No charge is made for it.
About Us and
Note: If the above dated image
does not appear on this document, it means that you are not viewing the
original document from our servers. Should you have reason to doubt the
authenticity of the document, we recommend that you access our server
again and click on the "Refresh" or "Reload" button of your Browser to
view the original document.
you wish to contact
The M+G+R Foundation, please Click Here.