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@ USA - Published on August 28th,
2008 [Eve of the Memorial of the
Beheading of John the Baptist]
Amusingly - and I just found via Google News that
outlet DID discover on 8/20/08 Senator McCain's involvement with the
S&L A scandal. One of them would
not be taken seriously as they are: "black america's daily news
source".......and you have to REALLY look to find them. (1)
Others also did mention it too. (2)
BUT....my premise still holds: The TV talking heads have not "been
cleared" to make this an issue. In addition you will NOT find this
in the conspiracy circles (yet), nor in the (OD controlled) Catholic
blogs/forums. The "go-ahead signal" obviously has not yet been
Just as Howard Beale warned us in the 1976 movie Network
"...you people only do what the tube tells you....think as it tells
you.....you think like the tube, .... they will tell you any... you
God be with you!
@ USA - Published on August 23rd,
This (1) is the current bulletin from the
church that JM wrote to you
about which was beginning to offer the Latin Mass just a short while
just there on July 16 for a Wednesday evening Holy Hour and
Mass. Double-checking the times for tonight, I noticed that they
have changed up their Mass schedule, and now have the Latin Mass on
Wednesday evenings, no more Saturday a.m. Mass.
The worst of the bulletin is on page 1, they are having the OD speakers
to present to their parishioners in early September (it all sounds so
very innocent). Things happen FAST!
response necessary... just expressing a bit of dismay. As you all
say, it is on schedule, so I should not be surprised.
This is one blessing of being loosed from my former parish, where my
head would have been in the sand as I would not have seen any of this
happening in my own backyard.
well, I know..... even though I have just read the August 24th
bulletin, page 2! (2)
Page 2 :
In 1928 Fr. Josemaria
Escrivá founded Opus Dei in Madrid, Spain. Opus Dei is a
Catholic organization whose primary work is to help people turn their
daily work and activities intoopportunities
for growing closer to God, serving others, and improving our society.
Theirs is a very practical spirituality that they convey primarily
through retreats, classes and spiritual direction. In just 80 years
this organization has spread to more than 60 countries around the world
and has more than 87,000 members, 98% of whom
past several years there has been some controversy in our country about
this organization, especially with the 2003 publication of Dan Brown’s
fictional novel, The Da Vinci Code, and the subsequent
movie version of this book. But it must be remembered that this book is
a work of fiction, and the controversial
assertions Brown makes about Opus Dei, our Lord, Mary Magdalene, and Church
history lack support from reputable Catholic scholars and authorities.
Moreover, Opus Dei has enjoyed the constant
support of the Vatican for many decades now, and their founder was beatified in
1992 and canonized a saint in 2002, which authenticates his work.
admit that I had some serious questions about Opus Dei before coming
into personal contact with them during my years in Washington, DC.
However, after befriending several members of Opus Dei
(both priests and laity), visiting their retreat houses, and reading
many of the writings of St. Josemaria, I have become certain
that Opus Dei is indeed a godly work.
fall, at the behest of the lay members of Opus Dei here in Charlotte,
Bishop Jugis requested quarterly visits from an Opus Dei priest
to provide days of recollection and spiritual direction for Catholics
here in Charlotte. As the bishop asked me to make the arrangements, I
have extended an invitation for the first visit
to take place here at St. Ann’s. Thus we are blessed to have Fr. Larry Kutz, a
priest of Opus Dei, coming to our parish the first weekend of
will be offering a night of reflection
for men on Friday, September 5 (from 7 to 9 pm), and a morning of reflection
for women on Saturday, September 6 (from 10 am until 12:30 pm).If you would
like to make a retreat but just can’t seem to find the time to do so,
you will benefit from these reflections. Fr. Kutz is an experienced
retreat master with a great deal of wisdom and practical insight about
how we can transform and sanctify our daily lives. If you have
questions about Opus Dei or would like to learn more
about them, please check out their website at: http://www.opusdei.us/.
You can also read What is Opus Dei?, by Dominique LeTourneau, or Uncommon
John Coverdale. I also highly recommend St. Josemaria’s book The Way for some very
practical spiritual meditation.
In Jesus and Mary,
@ USA - Published on August 20th,
thank God for you, miguel, and for "Did you know that...." post (1) this morning.... i pray
God Will allow His children to take it seriously and heed your
this is my story....
when my youngest son was 12, and still quite innocentl.... i overheard
his older sisters telling him there was no 'santa claus', that it was
all a made up story... to my utter horror, he wouldn't believe them,
because as he told them, 'my mom and dad would never lie to me'... i
was crushed, that what i thought was a seemingly 'little white lie' was
not a little lie at all, but rather a very damaging one, and i not only
allowed it, but it was i who lied to him!!!!
i will never forget that moment, nor its implications... i had ruined
my son's trust in me... even though i then promptly told him the truth,
it still took away that complete and total trust that he once had in
i remembered this event, later on, as my oldest daughter told me of one
day, while she was at college, that her and her friends were talking
about God, when one of them announced to her that 'there really was no
God' that it was just another 'santa claus' tale.. .my heart sank, what
have we done to our children!!!!
it has been 4 years since, and i have never mentioned santa claus to
ANY other child again, nor do i put up any christmas decorations that
include santa, snowmen, or anything else to do with this stupid story,
only nativity sets, angels and lights now adorn my house, i have gotten
rid of everything else.
i have received much flack over these last few years, from my family
and friends because i won't 'go along; with the story to their children
i have tried to tell people about this, but most won't listen as they
think this is all just 'harmless fun' and that i am a just a 'God freak'
the solution i have now come up with is, whenever there is a
mention of 'santa', and children are around, and after seeing the
glares from the adults who know my position on this, i just leave the
room so as not to offend anyone, but i always approach the parents of
the children afterward and tell them my story so that they can decide
whether they want to 'continue lying' to their children....
while we are at it, and since we are approaching fall, could you
also mention, halloween, that it also is not just harmless fun going
along with the crowd... i see so many people falling for this one too,
myself included until this event 4 years ago, which really opened my
eyes, to how we have been 'robbed' of all our holy days, by buying into
all this nonsense of santas, easter bunnies, we have opened our doors
and allowed our children to be mislead, and their trust in us to be
i was even decorating my house with witches, ghosts, vampires, etc. as
so many others continue to do... stupid, stupid us!....
May God have mercy on us, as we are soooooo stupid!
as always you all remain in my prayers...
on August 19th, 2008
damage done to the Faith of the young ones by
the quaint story of Santa Claus is greater than most even suspect?
Picture this: A child is lied to since he/she can remember about
fact that Santa Claus does exist and comes on Christmas to deliver
presents. This is reinforced by the marketing efforts of
multi-billion dollar businesses, the threat to the children that if
they do not behave well "Santa will bring you a lump of coal", etc.,
In the midst of this Believe-in-Santa-Mania there is sporadic
of Jesus Christ and God, The Father - neither of which the children
(normally) can see, yet they can see Santa in just about every
department store, Christmas card, decoration, etc. A massive brainwash.
Then - still of tender age - they find out that the whole
is just a hoax. Logically, they will now wait for the moment when they
will also be told that the Jesus Christ and God the Father "story" is
just another concocted myth - just another version of the "boogie man".
So much for "Where was God
or "Where did I go wrong?"
From LP @ USA - Published
on August 17th, 2008
Following is my story for
Christian Challenge about Tony Blair's version of the "URI".
ANGLICAN-TURNED ROMAN CATHOLIC
TONY BLAIR LAUNCHES FAITH FOUNDATION TO UNITE WORLD RELIGIONS
By Lee Penn
The Christian Challenge
Former California Episcopal Bishop
William Swing, who has nurtured his interfaith dream, the United
Religions Initiative (URI) (1) , since the mid-1990s, may be about to
be upstaged by Anglican-turned-Roman Catholic Tony Blair.
The former British Prime Minister is
moving fast out of the gate with his own interfaith venture, the Tony
Blair Faith Foundation, which he launched in New York City on May 30.
Blair is now promising to “spend the
rest of my life” promoting interfaith understanding and harnessing the
energy of religions to solve global problems.
“Faith is part of our future … and
faith and the values it brings with it are an essential part of making
globalization work,” Blair said in May.
“The point of the inter-faith
efforts,” he said recently, “is keeping minds open, because extremism
shuts them down.” Such rhetoric is strikingly similar to that used by
Bishop Swing in promoting the URI in the 1990s.
Blair’s foundation will collaborate
with other organizations to implement the eight Millennium Development
Goals, adopted by the UN in 2000. The Faith Foundation’s initial
priority will be to combat malaria by providing mosquito nets for beds
in affected developing countries. Blair said, “If you’ve got churches
and mosques and those of the Jewish faith working together to provide
the bed nets that are necessary to eliminate malaria … what a fantastic
thing that would be. That would show faith in action, it would show the
importance of cooperation between faiths, and it would show what faith
can do for progress..” The Foundation will also open a conference
center in London, and will work with Yale University to prepare
curricula to educate people about the world’s religions.
In his New York speech, Blair
disavowed any intent to compete with other interfaith organizations, or
to create a melting-pot religion (which some say is the URI’s
objective): “There are many excellent meetings, convocations,
conferences and even organizations that work in the interfaith area. We
do not want to replicate what they do. We do not want to engage in a
doctrinal inquiry. We do not want to subsume different faiths in one
faith of the lowest common denominator.”
Unlike Swing’s URI
– which includes majority as well as minority belief systems,
such as Scientology, Unificationism, and Wicca – Blair’s interfaith
movement will concentrate on working with six major world religions:
Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Sikhism. It aims
to raise “a war chest of several hundred million dollars” for its
projects in the Third World. One of Blair’s aides said that “tens of
millions” of dollars have already been raised through support from
individuals, foundations, businesses, and governments. If so, this
would place the Faith Foundation far ahead of the URI, whose annual
headquarters budget remains well below $2 million. President Clinton
and UN officials attended the Foundation’s kick-off ceremony.
In contrast to the URI, the Faith
Foundation has gained cooperation from Evangelicals. It has also
garnered support from Anglicans and Roman Catholics (though the latter
two Churches both include some leaders who have supported the URI).
Rick Warren, the founder and senior pastor of the Saddleback
mega-church, is a member of the Blair Foundation’s advisory board; so
are the Church of England’s Bishop of London, Richard Chartres; the
Rev. David Coffey, President of the Baptist World Alliance; the Rev.
Joel Edwards, the General Director of the Evangelical Alliance; and the
Rt. Rev. Josiah Idowu-Fearon, the Anglican Bishop of Kaduna, Nigeria.
The Foundation expects that Cardinal Cormac Murphy O’Connor, Archbishop
of Westminster, will join the Advisory Council once he has retired.
Blair said in May that Pope Benedict XVI and Vatican officials were
“very supportive” when he told them about plans for the new interfaith
Sources: Time Magazine, The Times
Online (UK), The New York Times, Tony Blair Faith Foundation website,
United Religions Initiative
(1) About the URI's
From TJ @ USA - Published
on August 14th, 2008 [Eve
of the Feast of the Assumption of Mary into Heaven]
In reference to the Vatican ban on the
use of the word Yahweh and your publications (1) about it....
I confess I am much more comfortable to hear the name of Jesus used in
song and other reverent places, than the name of God, which is beyond
Because God was beyond us he sent us His Son, and His Son's Name we may
call upon in our prayers. Not out of respect to the Jews’
sensibilities, but because of the second commandment I shrink from
using it, and because we have been given a perfect alternative (Jesus).
But I concur that if we are to start arguing over this, we lose sight
of what is important.
Private Forum dated
From IW @ USA - Published
on August 13th, 2008
Here are some notes on my
personal experiences with members of Legionaries of Christ
Like Opus Dei, I
had never heard
of the Legionnaires of Christ, until I drove an elderly lady friend
(who was an organist) to play a funeral. It was for the father of
member. The son (the LC member) of the deceased met with her - in my presence -
the funeral to discuss the music.
Being an "old pro", she would usually
try to gently discourage the family of the deceased from selecting the
music - for the simple reason that they would be under great stress,
and not able to make sound decisions. Unless, of course, there was some
in the will of the deceased, etc., which specified certain preferences.
So, normally - and in all charity - requests and suggestions would be
discouraged and gently deflected.
Well, not only
did this young man have a highly inappropriate list
of music, all of which did NOT fit the alleged "conservative" image of
the LC, he was rather "un-hinged" in his demeanor. Normally one
chalk this up to the death. But this was something more. He insisted on
singing some of the numbers himself as well as being the
lector and serving the mass as altar boy.
He could not
maintain eye contact when he spoke with her. He was hyper kinetic,
seemingly bi-polar. There was something seriously wrong with him; this
was not the normal emotional stress at a death of a loved one. This kid
was disturbed! Alternatively polite, then controlling and with seething
temper underneath. He was emotionally damaged.
It was obvious to her that he
had been tampered with on many levels. The thought of some possible
sort of psycho sexual trauma occurred. That something had been done to
him, which he was trying (not too well) to suppress.
Only a dozen years
later did I fully understand what the LC was and what Maciel had
allegedly done. Then I thought of this poor kid again! Very sad.
The poor lady organist was flabbergasted then and has never been able
to forget the scene.
From m de P
@ World - Published
on August 9th, 2008 [63rd
anniversary of the world's second nuclear attack]
Isn't it amazing how Dawn and Sunset look the same to the casual eye?
Being geographically oriented one will have an idea where East and West
are and anyone knows that the Sun rises from the East and sets in the
Knowing approximately what time
it is, anyone will know that the Sun rises in the morning and sets in
It logically follows that someone who is geographically disoriented
- does not know where the North is - and is not paying attention to the
not be able to tell the difference between the Sunset and the Dawn.
That principle is precisely what "they" are counting on so that as the
End of These Times - the "Setting of These Times" - the masses
will mistake it by the real dawn.... when it truly is the False
final death trap.
m de P
time is it?
for the False Dawn to get underway
@ USA - Published
on August 6th, 2008 [Feast of the
Our Lord and 63rd anniversary of the world's first nuclear attack]
Late last night I channel surfed past
the end of some elaborate
mass on EWTN with Archbishop Raymond "Bully" Burke. I had no clue what
this was about... or where it was........until now.
If your time permits, peruse the website (1) of this tourist trap
the Theotokos as its marketing ploy. May God have mercy on these fools
for what they are doing!
Wanna visit the on site gourmet
starve in the US and around the world? Buy stuff from the gift shop -
on line or on site? Wanna light a candle online....or on-site at the
(seemingly) world's largest devotional candle rack? Attend a book
signing with the ubiquitous Raymond Arroyo or Fr. Benedict Groeschel,
as they peddle their latest spiritual snake oil?
If you look at the .pdf bulletin's of
the shrine (e.g. the latest
one) you can see the prices listed for the "gifting opportunities"?
Like......."Tongs for incense" (to handle the hot charcoals)": $200.
metal tongs? I have tongs in
my kitchen which I use for bacon and sausage cooking which I bought
in a local Dollar Store....for $1.......which would work just fine.
Of course all of this is a (painfully
obvious) OD style project,
designed (rather like the "pagan idol" monstrance chapel in Chicago) as
both patent money maker, and spiritual seduction. What is amazing is
that there are mega-bucks to build (and maintain!) this and other
similar money makers......... as parish after parish is closed, assets
seized because "there is no money to operate them"......... and as mass
attendance worldwide is in a tailspin.
Right now I would characterize
Catholics as falling into one of the following categories:
the "drooling masses' of the 'blind' who are utterly clueless.
Opus Dei style fanatics - few of whom are cognizant of the real
plans; most of them like the drooling masses are clueless, but driven
by mad "obedience".
the relative handful of "the Elect" who have "eyes to see", of varying
the fallen away Catholics. These primarily comprise two sub groups:
a) those who now believe in nothing.
b) those who have fallen into the
sects....... .which are in all too many cases linked in some manner
Opus Dei and its "affiliate programs".
Note that I have not included
those who have joined the
mainline Protestant churches. That is because there are so few of them
that they literally "fall off the radar screen". Besides, in most
there is connectivity between their ministers and OD on some level,
so that they fall into the latter group above. Of all the ingenious
devices which satan, the master organizer of all this, has inspired in
the OD types, is the conscious use of "peer pressure" to keep the
faithful in line. Regardless of the social setting or group, it is used
(intentionally) as a tool to prevent folks from independent thinking
(or true prayer!!!).
In all my years of "Catholic Schooling"
we may have spent a total
of 10-15 minutes per day of class time on the Beatitudes/Sermon on the
the focal point of Jesus' teaching. BUT... many, many hours on "obedience"
to "church authority". Peer pressure was engaged to enable (forced)
giving to "the missions", to the point where kids who had no money were
called "cheap" by teacher and student alike. Poor children being
publicly humiliated...for not "giving to the poor"......
With that kind of indoctrination it is
no small wonder that this
"shrine" is built, and that people will pour money at it, like lemmings
marching to the sea.........
Christ be with you always
(2) The M+G+R Foundation
Comments: Mercifully for the Elect, their time is very limited
and running out. i.e. The handwriting on the wall reads: MANE, THECEL, PHARES
MANE: God hath numbered thy kingdom,
and hath finished it.
27 THECEL: thou art weighed in the balance,
and art found wanting.
28 PHARES: thy kingdom is divided, and is
given to the pagans. [Daniel
@ USA - Published
on August 2nd, 2008
In a recent mailing (1) you have suggested prayerful
reflection on Rev. 18.
Ongoing .... I will likely write to you soon on this - in addition to
the comments I made in the last day or two.
One additional item that I remembered today: The US now occupies Iraq,
so we are (literally) the king of Babylon now. Babylon is a
multi-layered symbol, and I see the global economic machine, the US
empire, and the Vatican empire all as expressing that reality in
Another thing is evident: the destruction of Babylon is sudden, rapidly
carried out, unexpected (to her), and total. This symbol points to a
devastating future for the US and the Vatican.
Today's (Orthodox) scripture readings included 1 Corinthians 7:24-35
... the part that includes "the form of this world is passing away,"
and urging detachment from worldly cares.
You already wrote about those verses, and called them - and their
urgent message - to your readers' attention, months ago.
I still find it hard to
that George W. Bush, to his eternal shame and our nation's great
discredit, made torture a matter of hair-splitting, legalistic debate
at the highest levels of the U.S. government. But that's precisely what
The M+G+R Foundation Comments
Three previously classified administration memos obtained last week by
the American Civil Liberties Union add to our understanding of this
disgraceful episode. The documents are attempts to justify the
unjustifiable -- the use of brutal interrogation methods that
international agreements define as torture -- and to keep those who
ordered and carried out this dirty business from being prosecuted and
The memos don't call it torture, of course....
Let us not forget that this
only goes on Mr. Bush's "Invoice" - The above was allowed by a nation -
politicians, businessmen, professionals and your-average-Joe with very
rare exceptions. The exceptions were those who did something -
prayer - to bring this behavior [speaking as a lamb and acting as a
beast] to an end. Obviously, those were in the minuscule minority.
Let no one ever ask, as they view the virtual smoldering ruins of what
was a truly great nation led and populated by truly great people [who,
somehow, got derailed between a Shopping Mall and a Big Mac], "Where
was God?".... but, should they do, the answer is: "Allowing its ruin
to salvage a few of His Elect".
We recommend a prayerful reading of Apocalypse
Yes, we understand that for most "Cafeteria Managers" that chapter
refers to some long gone city/empire and it has nothing to do with "us
Saints" - unfortunately, those "Cafeteria Managers" know nothing about
recipes nor how kitchens are run.........
@ USA - Published
on July 31st, 2008
Eclipse on August 1
upcoming total eclipse on August 1 will be celebrated by excited
sky-watchers, even if it won't break any records. Get details on this
celestial event, and see the path it will take in a video from NASA.
@ USA - Published
on July 29th, 2008
Dear Miguel, God be with you, as always.
In reference to your recent document (1)
I've been reading Lew Rockwell's web site for years, and Paul Craig
Roberts, along with Gary North (more substantive than Roberts, in my
opinion), are clearly living in the same reality as yourself and many
of us who follow.
Roberts has previously overtly accused the Bush administration of
deliberately trying to start a nuclear war, as one example. The
archive of his posts is eye-opening. North's columns are more
economic in their focus - being a student of the Austrian school of
economics - but his conclusions are explicitly Christian and he
logically describes an inevitable series of “apocalyptic” economic
events, informed by what is obviously a deep faith.
(1) It seems
like someone's smelling the coffee and brewing a fresh pot.
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