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From miguel de Portugal @ World - Published on March 31st, 2008


Some time ago we substituted many of  our communications which would have been delivered via e-mail by postings on our new page Did you know that....?

The intent was to reduce the amount of e-correspondence that the members of our lists were receiving. However, although the Did you know that....? page has become the most visited page of our Domain we feel that we are not sharing as much information with our list members as we should.

Therefore - respecting your free will we will ask you to let us know if you wish that we return to the level of e-correspondence that you received from us before inaugurating the Did you know that....? page.

Know that we will keep the Did you know that....? page active even if we resume the more frequent mailing pattern.

Mail your preference to:  Making my will known

Many continued Blessings to all!

m de P


From (Mrs.) IW @ USA - Published on March 29th, 2008 [letter written on  December 9th]

dearest miguel
 
i hope this letter finds you in enjoying a holy Advent Season!!
 
i just wanted you to know that i have not made a donation (1) to your ministry yet, but as soon as i am able to, i will.... until that time, and for as long as there is breath in my body, you will always remain in my daily prayers.... i am so sorry that i don't have any money and that prayer is all i have to share with you.... you deserve  and need so much more... i just hope that those that God has blessed with the ability to do so, will donate very generously to your ministry, not just for you, but for all of us, who need your help so much.
 
i must tell you how comforting today's words from Jesus were.... two sentences jumped out at me...
 
So fainting and needy, by the lakeside of life, know that I will supply your need, not grudgingly, but in full measure.
and your:
             'Put your money where your mouth is.'
 
i rejoiced at the first one, as that is where my family is these days.... and laughed at the second.... my current phrase these days, with all the hardships we have been facing, has been:' L, put your faith where your mouth is
 
i have used this phrase mostly in reference to our lack of money these days... i keep telling my family, as they begrudge that there are no gifts to share this Christmas, that Jesus is just trying to teach us something, as it appears we will receive some money after Christmas, but not in time for gifts or our Christmas dinner, where we usually invite my husbands whole family for a delicious feast....
 
i just keep hoping that whatever the lesson is, that we need to learn, that we can learn it quickly, so that Jesus can send us the help we need, to at least have a nice Christmas dinner.... even if it is not enough to invite everyone else...

please pray for us, me especially, that i may have the courage to endure, and the wisdom to understand, whatever God deems me too in the coming days...
 
love, peace, and blessings

(Mrs.)  IW

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(1) How to materially participate in this work



From LP @ USA - Published on March 27th, 2008


Clarity returns ... Gorbachev has given an interview refuting the recent media "fantasies" (his word) that he is a "closet Christian."  He remains an avowed atheist.
 
Here are the highlights of the story (1):

Gorbachev a "closet Christian"? 
| Tribune correspondent
MOSCOW — Even before the Soviet Union's collapse 1991, questions swirled about just how much of an unbeliever was its last leader,  Mikhail Gorbachev.
....

Several European media outlets were quick to size up Gorbachev's half hour of silence at St. Francis' tomb as proof that the 77-year-old former leader of an atheistic superpower was, in fact, a Christian.

The Italian newspaper La Stampa called his visit a "spiritual perestroika." A story in the London Daily Telegraph's March 19 edition concluded Gorbachev "has acknowledged his Christian faith for the first time."

... So Gorbachev recently decided to set the record straight.

"Over the last few days some media have been disseminating fantasies—I can't use any other word—about my secret Catholicism, citing my visit to the Sacro Convento friary, where the remains of St. Francis of Assisi lie," Gorbachev told the Russian news agency Interfax. "To sum up and avoid any misunderstandings, let me say that I have been and remain an atheist."


 It's noteworthy to look back at the conservative reaction to the recent reports in the British press that Gorbachev had become Christian.  Most conservative sites, and most Catholic sites that reported on this, believed these stories, and said "Hosanna!"  But their joy was premature.  And we have proof - again - of the power of propaganda, (2) when it tells a (false) story that many people want to believe is true.

LP
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(1)  News Report
(2)  The power o propaganda or a how a journal of a small country, Portugal, fooled the whole world - including NASA!



From RC @ USA - Published on March 24th, 2008 [letter written on  November 18th]

As you know we are in the last two weeks of the church calendar.  In two weeks, we will be lighting the First Advent Candle, God willing.
 
In these last two weeks, the readings focus on the Second Coming of Christ.  While the RCC high command continues to admonish us that no one knows when He will come again, the RCC high command has little credibility with those paying attention.
 
As you have stated repeatedly over the last several years, MANY have already met Jesus, since they are no longer with us, and no, they were not raptured, but simply their bodies and souls were separated, and their bodies are now in the ground.
 
All these warnings and messages were very relevant for them.
 
Miguel de Portugal asks nothing more of us than to listen and follow the Word of God.  When Jesus comes should not make any difference.  We know for sure that He will come for each of us, sooner or later.
 
Miguel simply and humbly advises us that we should be ready for that day, whether it be today or tomorrow or thereafter.
 
We should look forward to meeting Jesus, not fear it.
 
May The Holy Spirit Guide us in our efforts to do God's Will.
 
Peace

RC


From KH @ USA - Published on March 22nd, 2008 [Holy Saturday]

Good Morning, dear Family,
 
Thank you for your updates.  Blessings and good wishes to you during Holy Week.
 
What JM has experienced [See posting of March 16th] in his church seems to be quite common for other churches in that diocese, in spite of what's stated in the diocesan norms.  I visit a half-dozen or so Charlotte churches on a regular basis, and have seen Communion distributed exclusively from the reserved hosts, and have also observed how these many hosts have been questionably (in my mind) consecrated (1) during the Sunday Mass, because of so many vessels on the altar and these so distanced from the priest's extended hands during the Eucharistic prayers.
 
Even during daily Mass, when the consecration appears to be done properly, the reserved hosts are often still withdrawn and distributed by the Eucharistic minister, which leaves half of those present who may not be receiving the true Body and Blood.
 
I was just feeling sad about this after the Mass attended for Palm Sunday when I saw the above mentioned posting.  I was planning to begin a Novena today to the Blessed Mother in advance of the Annunciation, so I think that I will pray that the Bishop will somehow enforce the norms that are published for this diocese regarding the Holy Eucharist. 
 
I'm running out of options as to where to attend Mass in this area, but I am sure our situation is not exclusive... and I will follow your recommendations for this week and future, so as to not offend God any further and to receive the benefits and graces that Jesus wished us to have when He left us His Gifts.
 
Yours

KH

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(1)
About Transubstantiation


From LP @ USA - Published on March 20th, 2008 [Holy Thursday]

Some thoughts about Mr. Gorbachev's "conversion":

A.  If the story of Gorbachev's Christianity were related as "He just recently encountered Christ, repented, and is now seeking spiritual instruction from the Franciscans," there would (as far as any third party can tell) be a coherent story.  A recent conversion leaves Gorbachev room to say that he has turned away from, and put behind him, any of his problematic deeds and words of his before (say) 2006 or 2007. (1)
 
In any case, if his conversion is real, he would deserve tender support, and no second-guessing from doubters.  I remember how it was when I returned to the Faith in 1978, and how easily bruised I might have been if someone had confronted or second-guessed me then about the reality of my conversion.  I made some changes in my life at once; others have been a far slower process.


B.  However, the way the story is reported, it's being spun that Gorbachev has been a closeted Christian for decades, and is now revealing himself.  If that is the case, Gorbachev's faith has borne this fruit:
 
- The comic-opera "coup" in the USSR in August 1991
- The impoverishment of the people of the ex-USSR after the breakup of the Soviet Union
- As I documented in False Dawn (2), the buildup of the Soviet bio-weapons arsenal, which began in the 1970s and continued AFTER Gorbachev took power in the mid-1980s
- Gorbachev's active leadership in leftist NWO politics: secular messianism of a "progressive" sort
- His open advocacy of a global one-child policy - which could only work with a deadly mix of coercion, contraception, and abortion
 
If this is the quality of the "fruit," what can be the quality of the tree of faith that bore this fruit?
 
C.  Nevertheless, several conservative sites report on Gorbachev's conversion, and all are saying "hosanna"
 
Kyrie eleison

LP

NOTES                                   
(1)
Read some of Gorbachev's statements
(2)
False Dawn - Chapter 25


From WO @ USA - Published on March 18th, 2008

As commentary on what is staring us in the face, here is the word from a poster on the FSSP/OD controlled Angelqueen.org forum:  

(Emphasis by WO)

".....'It will be a world where the United States plays less of a role... and takes less of the world's resources.'......... Also a world where Our Lady's Immaculate Heart will triumph. Two months folks, two months and this financial system will be toast I believe. A new order of things is coming that Christ's One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic church will be a shinning star in. No more differences, no more strife; all will be Catholic. The only question is how much blood must be shed to purchase this new world. God give us all the faith and strength of the early martyrs."  (1)

The person who wrote that should be a script writer for Opus Dei (2), and the World Masters. (3)

WO

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(1)
Taken from this page- then about half way down the page, you are looking for the post by "fatima 1917". [ "Servitum" is John Grasmeir, the owner of the site.]
(2)  About Opus Dei's Plans
(3) 
About the World Masters



From JM @ USA - Published on March 16th, 2008 [Palm Sunday]

In reference to what appears to be the preference of offering communion at Mass mostly from hosts which are in reserve in the Tabernacle...

I was drawn to a document called "Liturgical Norms Of the Diocese of Charlotte" and as I read the document I was surprised to learn the following:

                                               General Norms  (bold script is original, not my highlights)

12. Planning for the Mass should include providing for a sufficient number of hosts to be consecrated so that all can receive hosts consecrated during that Mass, underlining the connection between consecration and communion. Generally, reserved hosts should not be brought from the tabernacle unless needed at a particular Mass. (1)

This addresses the issue but works around the central question of the consecrated status of the 'reserved hosts'...

If hosts are to be consecrated during the Sacrifice of the Mass wherein they are to be consumed, why so many "reserved hosts'? (2)  Have they been consecrated at some previous Mass? Shouldn't by now any Parish could make informed and practical estimates on how many would be needed at a particular Mass and thus avoid the "unless needed" and confusing issue of bringing out and offering unconsecrated hosts?
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(1)  An example from the Diocese of Venice
(2) 
These hosts are reserved for the sick and for those who could not be present at the Mass.


From TJ @ USA - Published on March 13th, 2008

Eliot Spitzer created a controversy over abortion, but that is an old political game played between the left and the right, with both sides needing each other to make the politics work.  Spitzer owes a political debt to the pro-abort crowd for backing him through the election process.

To pay back that debt, he came out with an outrageous legislative plan that does not seem like it could pass the legislature but sure energizes the pro-aborts.  In response, the pro-life side issues fund-raising appeals and calls to organization to fight the inflammatory proposal.

Normally, this process plays out where some practical legislators write toxic language into the package, causing it to lose support to the point where it is rejected, and nothing changes except for the bank accounts of the political action organizers, and political debts are paid.  It works exactly the same way when an administration is elected because of support from the pro-life side.  Nobody seems to want to really rock the boat, because the status quo is too useful for maintaining a power base and quickly mobilizing fund-raising efforts.

 Sometimes a minority of the pro-life movement resorts to an unconventional tactic:  Prayer.

Perhaps that is behind the current scandal, but there is something more at work here.

Eliot Spitzer was always highly judgmental of those he prosecuted, and he prosecuted prostitution rings several times with his usual moralizing tone.  He came into office with the highest pretenses of self-virtue of any politician in recent memory. This is a sure-fire formula for a fall, as God does not long tolerate such a holier-than-thou personality when He knows we all have our faults and nobody save Jesus and Mary “deserve” to be so judgmental (and they choose not to be!).

The Chinese have a saying to the effect “Be patient, and wait in front of your house; eventually your enemy's funeral will pass you by”, which essentially says that those who make many enemies eventually self-destruct and it is better to calmly wait for it rather than to try fighting them.  Even if they lack the Christian faith, they clearly understand the fall that pride surely brings.

Regards

TJ


From LP @ USA - Published on March 10th, 2008

While visiting a Catholic bookstore several days ago I could not help but notice the following and its striking symbolism.
 
There was a shelf of newly-released books that they were promoting, half of which were by or about Benedict XVI.

The sign above the shelf read "Hot off the press".  The words were within a circle, the lower half of which was flame, and the upper half of which was darkness.

 
LP


From (Mr.) IW @ USA - Published on March 7th, 2008 [ First Friday Reparation] (1)

I got a dose of reality therapy at Mass on Sunday. 
 
I could not attend the usual Mass (a Latin/Gregorian Mass of Paul VI) at noon on Sunday due to a conflicting schedule.  So I went instead to the 4:30 pm Mass offered at XYZ Memorial Church.  I had gone there once before (for similar reasons) and it was fine.  Not this time.  [Please Note:  I went to worship; I did not go intending to monitor the service for abuses, etc.]

Highlights of the experience follow:
 
(a) Fortunately, no non-Christian deities were invoked, and there was no feminist language for God (i.e., prayers to "our Mother/Father in Heaven," which happens in some liberal parishes.)  And the priest did not mess up the words of Consecration - so I felt comfortable about receiving the Body of Christ at that Mass. 
(b) There was no Creed - neither Apostle's nor Nicene.
(c) There was no kneeling at any time in the service - including at the Consecration, the Agnus Dei, and the "Lord I am not worthy" prayer.  (The chapel, an ornate Romanesque-style building used by all Christian denominations, had no kneelers).
(d) We stayed seated through the Gospel - which I have rarely encountered anywhere.
(e) The psalm was Psalm 23 ... but in a modern hymn form that included lots of subtle changes.
 
The refrain was "God alone may lead my Spirit far away from want and fear, for the Lord is my true shepherd and I know that the Lord is near."  I thought it odd for them to capitalize "Spirit" in reference to anything other than the Holy Spirit.
 
Verse 1: "I am led beside God's peaceful water and I sleep in the arms of the earth.  Who guides me along paths of honor? Who refreshes my life from birth?"  So "green pastures" becomes "arms of the earth", and "restores my soul" becomes "refreshes my life from birth."
 
Verse 4: "Only mercy and goodness pursue me while that breath and that life endure.  And I'll dwell in the house of God's keeping who has opened the mouths of the poor."  All of this is a pale substitute for "I shall dwell in the house of the Lord for ever."
 
etc.
 
(f) I can't report on the sermon, since I "accidentally"(?) took a nap during it.
(g) After the usual "preparation of the gifts" prayer, there was a long, showy, hard-to-hear "Litany of Deliverance" sung by the choir, using loud jazz-style instruments.  While they were doing this number, the "elect" from the RCIA class stood with the priest by the altar.  Whatever the Litany was, it was not the Litany of the Saints or anything I had heard before.  [Someone explained me that what probably happened was that: The RCIA candidates were supposed to have received a ritual exorcism from the priest.  Maybe the priest did so, but I could not see or hear that ... all that was evident was the choir's jazzy song.]
(h) The prayers of the people were mostly reasonable ... although the end of the first petition was "as we build God's kingdom on earth."  Seems odd, since I thought that God was in charge of building His kingdom.
(i) The collective effect of all this was that I listened very closely to the consecration prayer, so I could tell whether or not the priest said the right words when consecrating the Elements.  He did.  But in any case, the whole service became an anti-worship experience for me.  It was almost like being back in my Protestant Church days, where I would have to listen carefully to prayers and hymns before I could "go" with them, so as to avoid praying or singing something heretical or idolatrous.
(j) The Communion hymns were orthodox ... but they were maudlin "Jesus and me" hymns that would have fit perfectly into a Baptist service - nothing about the Sacrament we had just received. 
 
I will not attend this service again, in the absence of a very clear sign that I must.  I believe that I would have done better to stay home and pray a Rosary or another edifying prayer.
 
During and after the service, I did pray for the service leaders, and I did offer up my perplexity, consternation, and distress as Reparation for sins (and blasphemies).
 
I talked with a friend of mine - former Roman Catholic, now Eastern Orthodox - about this, and he reminded me that I have had a VERY privileged, protected parish life as a Catholic, since I have attended Mass at very traditional churches in the Bay Area.  In other words, Sunday I got a taste of what is common in the Roman Catholic Church in the West now.  Ugh. 
 
Of course, I know that complaint would be futile ... if nothing else, I know the nature of the Hierarchy to which such complaints would be addressed.. But in the future, I can stay away from such trendy "worship".

IW
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(1)   "I promise you in the excessive Mercy of My Heart that My all-powerful Love will grant to all those who communicate on the First Friday in nine consecutive months the Grace of Final Penitence; they shall not die in My disgrace nor without receiving the Sacraments; My Divine Heart shall be their safe refuge in this last moment."


From LP @ USA - Published on March 3rd, 2008


I had mentioned to you Leni Riefenstahl and her 1934 Nazi film, "Triumph of the Will" in our discussion of movies as "mass persuaders".
 
Here is the Wikipedia article on the film: Triumph of the Will - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
and

Here is a link to the film itself, online at Google: Triumph des Willens (Triumph Of The Will)
 
The first minute of the film is a dark screen with classical music ... the credits and the film itself starts later.
 
If they could do that then, imagine what today's propagandists do now.

LP


From BS @ USA - Published on March 1st, 2008 [ First Saturday Reparation]

I came across this and wanted to pass it on.(1)

Could this be the "New Middle East" or at least plans for one? (2)

BS
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(1)  News Item
(2)  This is the Brain Child of  Ralph Peters (3)
(3) Who is Ralph Peters?


From NP  @ USA - 
Published for February 27th, 2008 

Dear Miguel of Portugal,
 
A word of thanks seems appropriate.  I had rejected all things Marian at approximately the turn of the century while continuing to adhere closely to the Lord through study of the Scriptures.  Now I sense a calling, or a wish for a calling from Mary, and have been reading The Miracle Detective by Randall Sullivan, an excellent, well-researched, factual and sympathetic account of the Medjugorje apparitions and the author's own conversion.  On pg. 374 the author recounts that on the return flight home from his second trip to Medjugorje, he was "...seated next to a jeweler from Philadelphia who offered me a lesson in how to buy pearls.  'The most important thing to remember,' he said, 'is that you get what you pay for.'"
 
Immersed in Scripture as I have been, that struck a chord.  The pearl of great price, I mused.  You must sell everything to get it!  Within an hour or two I was searching Google for "Marian warnings" (1) and found your site (2).  You talked of the invoice we'll be getting.  I read for hours, going from link to link within your site, wherever it led me. 
 
What I thank you from the bottom of my heart for is the Pearl of Divine Wisdom you recount from Our Lady's Fatima messages.  Not to seek mortification, but simply to accept what comes our way from day to day and offer up. (3)  This apparently is advice I'm going to need.

Thanks, and God bless you, 
 
NP

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(1) The World has been amply warned
(2)  It is for the NP's of the world - those who have not found us yet - that God Wills that these documents remain on line
(3)  Redemptive Suffering and The "other" Secret of Fatima




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