A Reminder About Medjugorje
Originally Published on February 3rd, 2019
Originally Published on February 3rd, 2019
Added on October 29th, 2022. At the end of this document, you will find a new
section "News and Comments on Medjugorje" containing links to news and comments
related to Medjugorje published in our domain along the years.
PURPOSE
Just as the title read: A reminder about Medjugorje.
INTRODUCTION
We were prompted to publish this reminder after we read the following news about a very important Medjugorje promoter:
Pro-Gay Cardinal Finds it "Touching" That Homosexuals Want "Matrimony"
(1)
"I find it touching that same-sex couples desire to get married", Vienna pro-gay Cardinal
Christoph Schönborn told the leftwing German magazine Stern (January 30)...
Schönborn added that "we have long accepted" that the State has admitted gay pseudo-marriage, "If a parliamentary majority wants it, please let the State do it like this."
This contradicts the June 2003 Vatican document signed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger according to which "all Catholics are obliged to oppose the legal recognition of homosexual unions."
Schönborn added that "we have long accepted" that the State has admitted gay pseudo-marriage, "If a parliamentary majority wants it, please let the State do it like this."
This contradicts the June 2003 Vatican document signed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger according to which "all Catholics are obliged to oppose the legal recognition of homosexual unions."
DETAILS
Back in November 2011 we published the following in our For Your Information and Reference page regarding Medjugorje:
Did you know that... Medjugorje visionary Ivan Dragicevic's apparition for November 17 in
the Cathedral of Vienna will be live-streamed over the Internet? (2)
According to Ivan, the Virgin Mary will bless all on-line viewers who pray along and follow the apparition, as if they had been physically present. Religious items brought next to the computer will also be blessed.
A six-digit number of people from all over the world will be praying in front of their computers when Medjugorje visionary Ivan Dragicevic's apparition on November 17 in Vienna, Austria, is being live-streamed in English and Spanish by MaryTV, and in German by Kathnet.
The Mass after Ivan's apparition will be presided over by Cardinal Christoph Schönborn. Last year the Cardinal welcomed the two Medjugorje visionaries:
Cardinal Schönborn said.
then we also read that...According to Ivan, the Virgin Mary will bless all on-line viewers who pray along and follow the apparition, as if they had been physically present. Religious items brought next to the computer will also be blessed.
A six-digit number of people from all over the world will be praying in front of their computers when Medjugorje visionary Ivan Dragicevic's apparition on November 17 in Vienna, Austria, is being live-streamed in English and Spanish by MaryTV, and in German by Kathnet.
The Mass after Ivan's apparition will be presided over by Cardinal Christoph Schönborn. Last year the Cardinal welcomed the two Medjugorje visionaries:
"Dear Marija, dear Ivan, thank you —first of all— that you came! Thank you that you came
again! Thank you for your service across so many years, for your work, for your service of being
messengers of Our Lady. You bring us —children of this world, children of humanity— her love
and her presence and may God pay you back one hundred fold for what you are doing
tirelessly!"
Cardinal Schönborn said.
The final result of the Vatican Commission on Medjugorje will certainly be advantageous, says
Cardinal Christoph Schönborn of Vienna who openly expresses his conviction that the Virgin
Mary does appear in Medjugorje. (3)
Cardinal Christoph Schönborn of Vienna not only believes that the apparitions in Medjugorje are real. He also believes that the final conclusions of the Vatican Commission assigned to investigate the events at Medjugorje will end up serving Medjugorje very well.
Cardinal Christoph Schönborn of Vienna not only believes that the apparitions in Medjugorje are real. He also believes that the final conclusions of the Vatican Commission assigned to investigate the events at Medjugorje will end up serving Medjugorje very well.
and as if that were not enough we read that...
Fr. Gabriele Amorth, chief exorcist for the Diocese of Rome throughout the years has embraced
Medjugorje, and he has called the place "a great fortress against Satan".
(4)
Ignoring the apparitions in Medjugorje is unforgivable for Christians, says Rome's leading exorcist who shakes his head at those who wait until the Church has ruled. Speaking of "betrayal" Fr. Gabriele Amorth also lashes out at bishops and priests for being indifferent to the fruits of Medjugorje.
By willingly failing to pay attention to the Virgin Mary's apparitions in Medjugorje, a great number of Christians have proven to be no different from pagans. Within this great number, both bishops and priests are included, the leading Catholic exorcist of the past 20 years said in a September 15 interview given to Radio Maria.
Ignoring the apparitions in Medjugorje is unforgivable for Christians, says Rome's leading exorcist who shakes his head at those who wait until the Church has ruled. Speaking of "betrayal" Fr. Gabriele Amorth also lashes out at bishops and priests for being indifferent to the fruits of Medjugorje.
By willingly failing to pay attention to the Virgin Mary's apparitions in Medjugorje, a great number of Christians have proven to be no different from pagans. Within this great number, both bishops and priests are included, the leading Catholic exorcist of the past 20 years said in a September 15 interview given to Radio Maria.
miguel de Portugal comments: As we have said many times before, the Faithful are being set up to be manipulated through the no-longer-valid apparitions of Medjugorje.
Following is a reprint of a column we originally published in January 2010.
Regarding Medjugorje:
The Viennese Cardinal Schönborn continues to promote Medjugorje and now compares it to Lourdes, while calling it 'a school of normal Christian life'. (5)
[our highlights]
The cardinal said that the alleged messages of Medjugorje are not as important as the prayer
that takes place there, including Eucharistic adoration, the Way of the Cross, Confession, and
the daily praying of the entire Psalter. "In order to doubt that into Medjugorje a stream of
grace flows, one must shut one's eyes," he added, comparing Medjugorje to Lourdes as a place
where hearts are transformed.
Also comparing the Church's caution towards the alleged apparitions to the Church's caution towards St. Faustina, the cardinal stated that the "personal reliability" of the witnesses, the sensus fidelium, and the charitable works associated with Medjugorje are "surely an important element".
"What does one learn from the Mother of God? The faith in everyday life! For me Medjugorje is a school of normal Christian life."
Also comparing the Church's caution towards the alleged apparitions to the Church's caution towards St. Faustina, the cardinal stated that the "personal reliability" of the witnesses, the sensus fidelium, and the charitable works associated with Medjugorje are "surely an important element".
"What does one learn from the Mother of God? The faith in everyday life! For me Medjugorje is a school of normal Christian life."
Comments: This is a reckless outrage. We remind our readers about our position about Medjugorje:
It was from God at the beginning but when it was turned into just another business to be
exploited using the Holy Names of Mary and Jesus, it was no more. That is why we say that we agree
with the local Bishops at the beginning —when it was accepted as being from God— and also
afterwards —when it was denied as a farce.
The man who became miguel de Portugal visited Medjugorje in the second half of the eighties and it was not until he broke away from the tourist scene, which pervaded the whole area, that he reestablished contact with the supernatural which could be felt in that once holy village.
But before "we get misty eyed" let us have a reality check about that "stream of graces" which allegedly flows from Medjugorje.
What was one of the first teachings that Mary imparted at the very beginning? On July 21, 1982, She is reported to have said (and repeated frequently thereafter):
"Through fasting and prayer, one can stop wars, one can suspend the laws of nature."
(6)
It was in 1987 —six years after the first Marian manifestation there— when the winds of war started to blow in the Federal Republic Of Yugoslavia (7) — where Medjugorje was located. Essentially the Milosevic era started and the rest is history... a bloody war history still being worked out in the World Tribunal at The Hague.
Then we must pose the following:
Either Mary lied or the millions upon millions that visited Medjugorje prior to the Milosevic
era were no more than religious tourists who took home with them little more than their dirty
laundry and a few souvenirs.
Of course Mary did not lie! What She said was and is true and we know it (not believe it, but know it from much actual practice). Obviously, as we have seen far too many times, once home most the new "converts" were only converted... to Religious Tourism! Prayer, fasting (if they even tried it!) and sacrifice came to almost a standstill.
The same story with Kibeho, Africa. (8) Mary appeared there in 1981, it was approved in 1982.
One of the visionaries saw: "A river of blood, people who killed one another, abandoned bodies with no one to bury them, a tree on fire, an open chasm, a monster and decapitated heads."
This awful vision was the only one of its kind. In the rest of the apparitions, Our Lady, who had dark skin, encouraged the young women to pray, fast, and do penance.
Thirteen years later the world was shocked with the Rwandan genocide.
Why did it happened? After all, obviously Mary had tried to avert it.
It happened for the same reason as with the situation in Yugoslavia/Medjugorje – Talk is cheap and easy and frankly we are tired of it! Fasting, Prayer and Sacrifice, although free, are hard and require devotional discipline.
The bottom line, brethren, is that the Vatican could not care less about what is going on as long as the Faithful have something to entertain themselves with, so that they do not pay attention to the less-than-holy activities of the Church Administration (like the preparation for the False Second Coming).
Let us now rewind all the way to the year 911 AD and let us see what happens when the Faithful truly obey our Heavenly Mother:
In 911 AD, Constantinople was under military threat and the people were praying for God's help in
the Blachernae Church in the suburb of the city. It was in this church that the omophor or
veil of the Virgin Mary was reserved as a most precious relic.
The church was crowded for an all-night vigil. Andrew, the future Saint known as a fool-for-Christ, was there, along with his disciple Epiphanius. At about four in the morning, Andrew and Epiphanius had a vision of the Virgin Mary: She entered through the church doors, escorted by St. John the Forerunner and St. John the Theologian and preceded by a host of angels.
She stopped at the ambo (the great stair-cased pulpit in the center of the church) and knelt there, praying fervently and with tears. She then entered the altar and prayed again and finally removed Her veil and held it out over the faithful as She ascended from them.
They concluded from Her presence that Her intercession would be the protection to the faithful in this hour of trial. And so it happened that the feared military menace was averted.
This Miraculous Manifestation and happy consequences are celebrated by the Eastern Catholic Church on October 1st. (9)
The church was crowded for an all-night vigil. Andrew, the future Saint known as a fool-for-Christ, was there, along with his disciple Epiphanius. At about four in the morning, Andrew and Epiphanius had a vision of the Virgin Mary: She entered through the church doors, escorted by St. John the Forerunner and St. John the Theologian and preceded by a host of angels.
She stopped at the ambo (the great stair-cased pulpit in the center of the church) and knelt there, praying fervently and with tears. She then entered the altar and prayed again and finally removed Her veil and held it out over the faithful as She ascended from them.
They concluded from Her presence that Her intercession would be the protection to the faithful in this hour of trial. And so it happened that the feared military menace was averted.
This Miraculous Manifestation and happy consequences are celebrated by the Eastern Catholic Church on October 1st. (9)
In conclusion: Cardinal or no Cardinal; Benedict or no Benedict; Church Administration or no Church Administration; Apparitions or no Apparitions – either the Faithful quits talking and starts praying and fasting in earnest, or Divine Mercy will be unattainable for most.
If we are more than fed up with cheap talk, think about how God feels about it.
Do you think our words are harsh? They are not at all when compared with what God will allow (allow, not cause) upon humanity to wake up the few who need to be awakened.
You doubt it? Think again – while you still can!
God allowed World War II because all that would come out of the Church Administration, regarding the Fatima events, was cheap talk (10) – the only thing that they are capable of.
CONCLUSION
Take ye heed, watch and pray. For ye know not when the time is (11). [Mark 13:33]
NOTES
(2) News Report No longer on-line
(2022)
(3)
News
Report No longer on-line (2022)
(4) News Report No longer on-line
(2022)
(5)
News Report No
longer on-line (2022)
(6) "Words From Heaven", 1991, ISBN: 1-878909-01-9, page 101
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News and Comments on Medjugorje
For Your Information & Reference - October 2018
- See October 13, 2nd item
For Your Information & Reference - June 2018 - See June 14 - Also June 2 (2nd and 3rd items)
For Your Information & Reference - October 2017 - See October 14, 2nd item
For Your Information & Reference - 2nd Half of June 2011 - See June 17
For Your Information & Reference - April 2010 - See April 16, 2nd item
For Your Information & Reference - March 2010 - See March 19, 2nd item
Did you know that...? - January 2010 - See January 10
Did you know that...? - December 2009 - See December 15
Did you know that...? - October 2009 - See October 3, 2nd item
News Commentary - February 2013 - See February 26
Points to Ponder - September 2005 - See September 12
Public Forum - September 2007 - See September 19
Public Forum - July 2007 - See July 27
Public Forum - January 2005 - See January 22
Public Forum - August 2004 - See August 26
Public Forum - January 2004 - See January 26
For Your Information & Reference - June 2018 - See June 14 - Also June 2 (2nd and 3rd items)
For Your Information & Reference - October 2017 - See October 14, 2nd item
For Your Information & Reference - 2nd Half of June 2011 - See June 17
For Your Information & Reference - April 2010 - See April 16, 2nd item
For Your Information & Reference - March 2010 - See March 19, 2nd item
Did you know that...? - January 2010 - See January 10
Did you know that...? - December 2009 - See December 15
Did you know that...? - October 2009 - See October 3, 2nd item
News Commentary - February 2013 - See February 26
Points to Ponder - September 2005 - See September 12
Public Forum - September 2007 - See September 19
Public Forum - July 2007 - See July 27
Public Forum - January 2005 - See January 22
Public Forum - August 2004 - See August 26
Public Forum - January 2004 - See January 26
Published on February 3rd, 2019 - Memorial of St. Blase
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