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that we may receive from time to time and which is of Universal
in these very unsettling times.
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transcribe the question and/or statement from the correspondence
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Letters/Questions - Addressed on March
@ Europe - America
[Published on March 31th ]
Is it true what I have read about the connection between Secretary of
Defense Rumsfeld and Tamiflu Vaccine?
This question was posed to miguel de Portugal twice in a space of 24
hours by: (1) An important banker in Europe; and by (2) A top
government health official.
de P had no information whatsoever on the subject matter except having
been illuminated to see the parallel between the 2000 year "computer
bug", which was a carefully crafted hoax that filled the coffers or big
business, and the Avian Flu scare. After all, how can the much
mentioned Tamiflu vaccine work if the virus (the human-to-human
transmitted virus) does not exist yet?
Therefore, he has looked into the
information and this is what he found:
commentary by Dr. Joseph Mercola
fundamental issue is who owns the intellectual property rights
over Tamiflu. The media reports suggest that the Swiss
company Roche will make billions.
While the drug is produced
by Roche, it was developed by Gilead Sciences Inc. which owns the
intellectual property rights. Gilead, which has maintained a low
profile, has outsourced the production to Roche.
Rumsfeld was appointed Chairman of Gilead Sciences, Inc. in 1997, a
position which he held in the years prior to becoming Secretary of
Defense in the Bush administration. Rumsfeld had been on the
Directors from the establishment of Gilead in 1987.
As confirmed in a company press statement in 1997, Donald H.
Rumsfeld assumed the position of Chairman, of GILEAD: :
is fortunate to have had Don Rumsfeld as a stalwart board member since
the company's earliest days, and we are very pleased that he has
accepted the Chairmanship," Dr. Riordan said. "He has played an
important role in helping to build and steer the company. His broad
experience in leadership positions in both industry and government will
serve us well as Gilead continues to build its commercial presence."
to company statement: Gilead Science
Inc. "has been active in the development of inhibitors for the
potential treatment and prevention of viral influenza and protease
inhibitors for the potential treatment of HIV"
For the whole article Click
As an update, we quote from the Gilead Sciences
Announces First Quarter 2001 Financial Results
In January, Gilead
announced the appointment of James M. Denny to the
position of Chairman of the Board of Directors. Mr. Denny has been a
member of the Gilead Board since January 1996 and served as Chairman of
the Audit Committee. Mr.
Denny replaced Donald H. Rumsfeld, who
resigned from the Board to serve the Bush Administration as Secretary
of Defense. Last week, Gilead announced the appointment of
Hull to the Board of Directors and as Chairman of the Audit Committee.
He is the co-founder, Chairman and CEO of Infrastructure World, Inc., a
business-to-business portal for the global infrastructure community.
Mr. Hull also serves as a Director of Darby Overseas Investments, Ltd.,
Bechtel Group, Inc., Bechtel Enterprises and the Fremont Group.
A similar situation as that of Vice President Cheney and the main Iraq
Contractor, Halliburton. The question is, of course, how much stock
they own and how it is hidden from the prying eyes of the press and the
As the saying goes: "We rest our
case" since it is coherent with everything else.
[Published on March 27th ]
would like, if possible, if you could explain more about how to
'decrease in self' so that we can become better instruments for Him, I
seem to keep thinking about the phrase St. John the Baptist said,
'I must decrease, so that He may increase'.
I feel as if the Lord is 'saying' that to me in the many Divine
Encouragement posts I have read and aren't really sure what He means by
that. Is it that we must try and not be selfish in our wants and
needs? Any further explanations you can give on this would be
That statement by John the Baptizer - John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease
- is greatly misunderstood because
it has two meanings.
In its first meaning:
John is telling those who are then
and there that his importance, at that time and place, must
decrease while the importance / impact of Jesus must increase. He
confirmed that message when he said through Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you in the water unto
penance, but he that
shall come after me, is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to
bear; he shall baptize you in the Holy Ghost and fire.
In its second meaning:
John is teaching future generations that, to serve Him well, our self,
or ego, must decrease so that God, this time in the Person of the Holy
Ghost, can freely work through us. Just as we cannot simultaneously serve God and
through an individual whose self or ego still primarily controls his
We must strive that our every action is devoid of any trace of
interest even to the point of avoiding the syndrome of: "After
taking the horse to
water, stay around to enjoy seeing it drink and benefiting from
it". We must take a soul to God and remain available to Him (not to the
individual) should He Will to send back to us that same individual if
need be. We must seek the pleasure of seeing
how well the individual is doing after drinking from the Living Waters.
Satisfying that desire is, and should always be, God's prerogative.
Example: At a certain time
miguel de Portugal, in the normal course of events, led back to God a
neighbor who obviously must have been quite lost. In a very short time,
the individual dropped out of
sight and from strong circumstantial evidence it was concluded that he
must have died (He
left his personal belongings at the rooming house he resided at. The
owner never heard of him again).
One or two months later, after Mass
at the Basilica
of Fátima, where m de P had taken the individual several times
to Holy Mass, the missing neighbor was standing just inside the main
doors of the Basilica. He
approached m de P to thank him for all he had done for him. Then, the
individual quickly left. Just minutes later m de P snapped to the
reality that this was the fellow that had been given for dead. Upon
speaking to the rooming house owner after this unusual event, m de P
found out that neither the missing individual nor anyone else had come
back to pick up his belongings. Conclusion: God allowed the individual
to return and thank m de P for having led him back to God, just as He
getting ready to end his life. This brought much needed consolation and
encouragement to m de P.
We must all strive to be "errand boys/girls" for God and then we can
really have (the correct terminology is; "we can access and
utilize") the power every human covets but seldom attains - even
when the individual may be one of the most powerful political leaders
in the world. That is
what Jesus meant when He said: Matthew 5:4 Blessed are the meek: for they shall
possess the land.
The meek is the ego-less, the self-less, the one who allows God
to fully work through him/her. God is the true "possessor" of the land
and when we become one with God, we posses the land too and His power
is manifested though our actions.
The "catch" is that we should do so only
love of, or as the logical result of our love for, God and not
to attain the
associated benefits. As we
have pointed elsewhere
, such self-satisfying logic carries a
very high price.
[Published on March 27th ]
that I have read on your pages and that is expanded in Lee Penn's
work is truly disturbing to me.... because
people much smarter and more prepared than I am are able to foretell
these outcomes, yet the same admit that almost everyone will be
By seeing/reading the MGR's sequence of events more "fleshed
out/translated" in Mr. Penn's book chapter 25, I became very
unnerved. If that is the reaction that I had
(psychologically) by just reading the words, I shudder at what sort of
reaction I might have when the real events take place. Will I be
able to recognize/act upon these as the events God foretells through
His Word and you.... or will I become hysterical, desperate, fall prey
to mass anxiety, fail to act, etc.? You questioning me
about this made me concentrate upon this all day, and I am ashamed of
myself because of my uncertainty.
The deception to come must be fantastic and terrible, and frankly, I
felt/feel terribly frightened that I don't have the scriptural
learning, historical/scientific knowledge, or especially, the closeness
to God to overcome such.
I am grateful for all the information that MGR has to share, and I
consider it a great grace for every reader. I'm sorry.... As I
said, these feelings I have don't make me a very good follower of
Jesus. But I thank you for asking me, because I am glad to have
time to have thought about all of this today. The only thing I
can think of for now is to take ownership of my complaints, pray more
and to try more to sanctify myself, since that honors God.
I have to remember the children of Fátima, and how Our Lord and
Our Mother make the decisions about to whom will be revealed the great,
great mysteries. Also, I recognize the work of God in your having
questioned me on this matter.
Thank you caring and carrying out this mission.
In False Dawn's Chapter
25, what Mr. Penn learned from history he combined with what
learned from God to yield a truly fleshed out Sequence
of Events. Yes,
the deception is (and will be even more) "fantastic and terrible". Even
more than the level which caused the
to raise to
the altars a man as Jose
María Escrivá - which in
is almost unbelievable.
But, not to worry! Our function is essentially twofold: (1) Announcing
manifestations of events which are already occurring because
forearmed." Knowing what to expect immediately eliminates the automatic
response of panic and despair upon the manifestation of said events;
and (2) Provide those who have
Eyes to See with
the prioritized instructions to
themselves so that deception would be impossible
Details of Item (1) are found
in the Sequence of Events and other documents
the pages they cascade to via Links and
for Item (2) are found in What
To Do?, What To
Do - Part 2? and in
the pages they cascade to via Links.
As we have already explained in Don't
Despair - all
with God is One Step At A Time.
Once we are on
the "right road" and "heading in the right direction" we must, with
trust and confidence, continually seek Him so that He "sets the speed"
of our return home. It is different for each individual since it is a
function of many physical,
psychological and spiritual factors and only God knows how to
"process that data" and turn it into the "right speed", which, of
course, may vary from day to day based on how we respond, physically,
psychologically and spiritually as we get "closer to home".
The closer we get to God ("home"), the more imperfections we see in
ourselves, and that is good! The
closer we get to the Light, the more it illuminates our soul and we can
then better see
how imperfect we still are which, in turn, allows us to joyfully and
with a song in our hearts continue to purify ourselves.
Wouldn't you be upbeat if you had all you need to get a job done - The
Light to see what needs to be worked on and the Holy Spirit of God to
guide you through the work steps? Frankly, we could not think a more
This is why those who consider themselves "already there", "holy and
pure" and "above the rest", just like many of the members of sects like
Opus Dei, Legionnaires
etc., will have the surprise of their
lives when faced with the real Truth
Light - Jesus Christ. But that
is their problem - they
have been amply warned and, because of that, we
will sleep well again tonight.
The day man thinks that "He is there" - that man is dead. That is
exactly what Jesus meant when He said in Matthew 13: 12
For he that hath, to him shall be
given, and he shall abound: but he that hath not, from him shall be taken away that also which he hath.
Jesus was not
talking about money!
The more Light we have, the more imperfect we see ourselves and the
more we strive to purify ourselves. The more we strive to purify
ourselves the more God will help us and "...to him shall be given,...".
Conversely, "...he that hath not..."
- that is,
those who think (through arrogance and spiritual blindness) that they
are ahead of the pack, so to speak; that they "have it made" - "...from him shall be taken away that also which he hath."
Poor, poor people
Let us pray for them
since amongst them are
some that have Eyes to See, yet, scales still are covering their eyes.
[Published on March 24th - Eve of the Feast
of the Annunciation]
include "Mom" and the rest of my family in your 5 hour prayer.
Please beef up your indulgence section to include that a simple family
rosary, rosary before the Blessed Sacrament or prayer after
communion before a crucifix are sufficient to gain a plenary
indulgence. Look down upon me good and gentle Jesus...
I just read about Sister Lucy and cried twice. I felt so close to
her this past year. I will be the first to claim a miracle if Mom
converts. Let's see I'll include Red China, North Korea, Mexico
and the good old USA as well.
One thing about your site Miguel- you've gotta have hope. Wouldn't it
be great if you turned out to be like Jonas?
You may be assured that, as it is requested with Faith and confidence,
the inclusion becomes a given fact. We are most happy to point out the
Indulgences associated with the Holy Rosary.
Let us pray....
[Published on March 19th - Feast of St.
Mom may convert soon but before Red China, North Korea, etc. converts
much blood must flow "under
the bridge". That was the choice
The Vatican Administration and, at that time, they held the much
about Keys. Now, all they hold is the key chain.
You do not think that Miguel has hope? Allow us to explain you: The
only source of hope for the world Miguel has is the certain knowledge
(not belief, but knowledge) that God will intervene, just as we
announced in His Name, to "set things straight", otherwise, you may
rest assured, we would destroy each other completely. Haven't you
read in Matthew 24: 22 And unless those days had been shortened,
no flesh should be saved: but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened.
Jonas? Nineveh? We already went through the equivalent of Jonas-Ninive
first cycle, when
God delayed the implementation of the New World
Order, as we pointed out elsewhere. Do you know what eventually
happened to Nineveh the second time around?
fell in 612 BC,
and was razed to the ground. The people in the city who could not
escape to the last Assyrian strongholds in the west, was either
massacred or deported. Many unburied skeletons were found by the
archaeologists at the site. The Assyrian empire then came to an end,
the Medes and Babylonians dividing its provinces between them.
better reexamine this whole issue. Robertson is close to being
correct in his evaluation of "Radical Muslims."
JA is referring to a mailing we sent to our Select List. We
reproducing the e-mail below so that the response makes sense to the
Public Forum Readers.
Quote from News Report (1)
Television evangelist Pat Robertson
said Monday on his live news-and-talk program "The 700 Club" that
Islam is not a religion of peace, and that radical Muslims are
He remarked that the outpouring of rage elicited by cartoons "just
shows the kind of people we're dealing with. These people are crazed
fanatics, and I want to say it now: I believe it's motivated by demonic
power. It is satanic and it's time we recognize what we're dealing
(no longer) off-the-record Comment:
With statements like that, does Mr.
Robertson show that his religion - which is certainly not Christianity
- is any better than what he claims Islam is?
But as usual - the real problem is not Robertson nor his twisted
"faith", the real problem is the number of individuals who believe such
doctrines. What are our options? Only one: Pray for their conversion
since the "wagon they are riding" leads to only one place: hell.
Do not take our word for it - it is Jesus' if we are to believe any
translation of the New Testament.
First of all, a Call to Order. The above correspondence was sent as an
off-the-record commentary to our Select List. Our Select List, we
hoped, should be composed of individuals who are
very familiar with our positions and publications in most every aspect
of These Times. Individuals for
whom we do not have to "cross every t"
nor "dot every i", so that we can fire-off these relevant
communications without consuming the time that we do not have.
Obviously we have made a mistake in
such assessment of the Select List Members. We shall now,
what we said off-the-record.
We have nothing to reexamine
regarding this issue. Mr. Robertson said that Islam is not a Religion
of Peace. Were we to go along with Robertson's logic, we would have to
conclude then that neither is Christianity, most specifically
Catholicism - which of course is not true either!
If we were to go along with
Robertson's logic that radical Muslims are "satanic"... well, we have
had some of that occupying the Chair of Peter - but it certainly should
not reflect on the Catholic Faith.
about the Inquisition which is being denied just as the Holocaust is
being denied? If that was not "satanic", what is? Satanic, and, of
course, stupid... burn
Joan of Arc first as a witch and then make her a
We have clearly stated the
relationship between terrorism
and satan and complete rejection to
anarchism - how can we then deny what we have
stated so clearly? We are not the Vatican who changes positions and
on the level of donations needed!
Of course there were many terrorists
who took advantage of the just demonstrations and turned them into a
bloody hell, but to lump all rightfully offended Muslims
with terrorists is
irresponsible and idiotic - at least Mr. Robertson is being coherent
with himself on that!
However, we respect free will;
therefore, if Mr. Robertson wishes to label Islam as a religion of war
("not of peace" means "of war") and radical Muslims as "satanic"
then, using the Robertson Measuring System, he should also apply those
qualifiers to Christianity, in general, and Catholicism, in
are only applying a rule given to us by Jesus Christ (1), Someone
Mr. Robertson obviously knows nothing about! (2)
We thank you for the opportunity to
make our position crystal clear while, at the same time, publicly call
for Mr. Robertson reexamination of his alleged Christianity.
(1) John 7: 24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge just judgment.
know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if
he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought
to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war."
Pat Robertson, August 22, 2006
[Published on March 19th - Feast of St.
another weekend has come and gone-another weekend without attending
Mass. Caught once again on the horns (there's symbology for you) of the
same dilemma- if you miss Mass the Church says you have committed a
mortal sin-must declare it in Reconciliation-if you can get
As we have stated before, satan is having a Field Day and The Vatican
is running the Concession Stand. However, before we place
all the blame on the Vatican, we must analyze the situation. (a) Why is
Mass being missed?; and (b) Why only thirty minutes available for the
Sacrament of Reconciliation?
to the "generous" thirty minutes to one hour a week set aside in the
middle of Saturday afternoon in most parishes for the Sacrament..so "no
Reconciliation-no Holy Eucharist"--and everything comes down to
Saturday afternoon and another weekend slips away.
If Mass is missed for no (real) fault of our own is one thing; if Mass
is missed due to lack of enough motivation, that is another thing.
However, regardless of those "infallible claims", we are not dealing
with a mortal sin. If that were a mortal sin, given the track record of
the Church Administration, hell would have been on a sold out
already by the 12th Century.
Why would a parish have more than thirty minutes a week assigned for
the Sacrament of Reconciliation, when not
even in Rome at
times the apparently "immaculate" Faithful do not take advantage of
this valuable Sacrament? That would be a waste of human resources.
Spain is very punctual about having priests at the confessional daily.
The poor men, if they did not take the Breviary with them, they would
fall asleep at the confessional. (Judging by
the quasi universal usage of foul language in Spain, one would expect the
confessional to be "on a sold out condition" on a daily basis.)
Before we make the Church Administration the "whipping boy" for
everything, it is very important to see if we are not the ones who need
the whipping first.
[Published on March 19th - Feast of St.
I have come out from the maze of information re our Faith; yet I cannot
find any material to suit my future needs, not that I expected
to, now I have to take you up on your request, to "Come back to you"
My biggest problem is finding the year of the Judgment, I am aware that
God doesn't advertise this, and wont, but all I need is an approximate
Year, to decide the Daily Readings, I am being told 2008, but I am not
going to argue with Him if I am wrong.
As from the Judgment Day things will get quickly worse for us ,
and we must be prepared for the worst, so I humbly ask for your
help as mentioned in my email of 12th Jan 2006 (1)
Yours in Christ
inform me where and how I may obtain copies of the Roman Missal, Daily
and Sunday Readings and other relevant writings to be used by visiting
A. We do not understand
exactly what you mean. Is it that you want to make sure that you have
all the readings up to an including the Day of Judgment?
Assuming that such is your question,
we suggest the following: Take
it one step at a time. Make sure that
you have all you need for this year. If you make it through the end of
2006, then, do the same for the year 2007, and so on.
What we suggest for everyone is not
so much to seek from God the "When?" but His assistance so that
everything that each one of us must have accomplished, at every step of
the journey, is
accomplished "How" and "When" He has determined form
Why worry if the general Day of
Judgment is, say, on the year 2007 yet, tomorrow, as you take out the
garbage you get killed by a car? (this has happened to a
relative) The Day of
YOUR Judgment just got there!
If there one thing each one of us
must seek in earnest is union with God, here and now! How is that
accomplished? "Ask and ye shall receive" and be as persistent in it as
sensitive to His Will. It is He Who set the conditions for the union,
[Published on March 14th - Feast of Purim
(Defeat of the plot to destroy the Jews in Persia)]
is something I came across a while ago and found interesting:
[Ed. Note: A spiritual "preparation" formula published by those who are
neither qualified nor empowered to do so. Reference to said formula has
been edited out of the letter for the benefit of the Faithful.]
It reminded me of the time you listed a special formula of the St.
Michael prayer for the Katrina victims and survivors. I would
appreciate hearing what you think?
Thinking of this, I feel like we should have our "spiritual" readiness
kits prepared, as well as our food, water and first aid. I would
like to have my Bible, Rosary, holy water and Miraculous Medal ready to
go, along with any special printouts of prayers that I like to say but
don't have memorized.
Furthermore, in thinking about a disaster, I remember reading from the
Divine Mercy diary that the chaplet should be prayed for the
dying. Since there may not be priests for Last Rites, this might
be good to remember.
A question: I remember having heard that baptism could be
performed by lay persons in emergency. Is this true?
Thank you, as always,
One of the items found amongst the spiritual preparation instructions
you referred us to was the following blessing: “I bless you with
the blessing of the Blessed Mother and May the power of the Holy
Spirit come upon you.”
This is a modified
(by who?) version of the Special Blessing allegedly given by Mary in
Medjugorje - first mentioned as far back as the apparition on August 5,
1985. Being that the concept of such Special Blessing was heavily
publicized through Caritas of Birmingham makes its source suspicious -
however - any well intended
Blessing can work wonders since it is God Who bestow the Graces
The other suggestions presented in the location you referred us to are
mostly nonsense IF the individual has not been nourishing his/her Faith
for some time. We cannot see someone with the typical "Faith surface
coating" (faith with no real roots) reaching out for a Rosary the
moment a catastrophe strikes. Panic describes better the behavior that
we will mostly witness; a behavior for which we are trying to "vaccine"
the surface-Faithful against before the time when it will really appear
that the world is about to end.
The "spiritual readiness kit" that you are preparing is certainly an
excellent idea - conceptually as well as for its contents. We would
certainly endorse it.
Regarding your question about baptism performed by lay persons in an
emergency: The Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly states that:
1256 The ordinary ministers of
Baptism are the bishop and priest
and, in the Latin Church, also the deacon. In case of necessity,
anyone, even a non-baptized
person, with the required intention, can
baptize, by using the Trinitarian baptismal formula. The intention
required is to will to do what the Church does when she baptizes. The
Church finds the reason for this possibility in the universal saving
will of God and the necessity of Baptism for salvation.
1284 In case of necessity, any person can baptize provided that
he have the intention of doing that which the Church does and provided
that he pours water on the candidate's head while saying: "I baptize
you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."
May God continue to nourish
your desire to draw closer to Him, which, in turn, will indeed help
many as exemplified by your letter and our response.
[Published on March 13th]
we have posted three letters since the one answer should cover the key
questions raised by the writers.]
Letter No. 1
Can you help me? I am corresponding
with a young, intellectual man who converted to the Catholic church
last Easter. He is reading the book, "Meditations on the Tarot: A
Journey into Christian Hermeticism" It's a series of meditations
written by an anonymous Catholic author and based off the ideas
represented by each of the Major Arcana of the Tarot deck: The
Magician, The High Priestess, etc., etc.. I have told him I think
he is endangering his soul reading this book, but there is an afterward
apparently from Cardinal von Balthasar and so he thinks the book is
o.k. to read. Do you have any info on this book to help me make my
Letter No. 2
I recently found a catholic church
closer to my home than the one that I currently attend. In its
list of masses I see that they mention one that is described as
charismatic. Please forgive my ignorance, but I had no idea what
that meant as far as the Catholic church is concerned.
I did some research, and it left me feeling very skeptical. Shall
I avoid this mass, or shall I avoid this church altogether? As a
precaution I have decided to wait for an answer from you before
attending. Thank you for your time.
Letter No. 3
Which brings me to a question I have
long pondered: what happens to prayers that are either said with no
particular intention in mind, or those that are said for an intention
that for one reason or another is already moot? (Like praying for a
soul whom you may believe to be in Purgatory, but has in actuality
already been admitted to Heaven.)
imagine if Our Lord Jesus Christ
is responding to you and saying....
before Me, gently
breathing in My Spirit.
That Spirit which, if given free entrance, and not barred out by self,
will enable you to do the same works as I did, which being interpreted
is, will enable Me to do the same works, and even greater than I did
when on earth - through you.
Spiritualism is wrong. No man should ever be a medium for any spirit,
other than Mine.
All you should know, all it is well for you to know of My
Spirit-Kingdom, I will tell you when and how I see best.
The limit is set by your own spiritual development. Follow My
injunctions in all things.
[Published on March 10th]
Now the faithful can understand why he/she
does not seem to be able to "do the same works as I
requirement is to get rid of self; the other one is having true
. Regarding trying to communicate with spirits other than
the Spirit of
God, the reader may review our
amply dealing with that. Two other of our documents should
shed more light on the matters at hand: One dealing with parapsychology
and another one dealing with Time and Eternity
Why should we not try to "Play God" by manipulating spiritual laws? We
have explained the dangers in doing this in yet another document
We do not need special "Church Movements" to communicate with God -
tend to become
which end up leaving out God. What we
need to know is how to pray
and how to direct the prayer
Above all - in everything we do - spiritual and physical - we must (we
say "must" NOT "should") defer to the Will of God (not what we
think His Will should be!) on everything. In this manner - everything
that we attempt will yield the most perfect results possible.
In addition, just because a member of the Hierarchy endorses a writing
or movement does not necessarily mean that the writing and/or movement
is from God. After all Cardinal
was forced to resign, and Cardinal
did not do much better. The new Guardian of the Faith,
be the "crow bar" the world
legal system needed to crack open the Roman Curia
and, if all of
were not enough, the revered John Paul II
Escrivá a saint
If the above references are prayerfully
reviewed - all your questions,
and many still not asked, will be answered.
We Thank You! for the opportunity to help many by responding to your
certainly didn't mean to sound anything but sincere. I have never heard
of Fr. Altier. My comment was directed strictly to his remarks about
infiltrators in the Church which is a fact.
How far do we as Catholics go in supporting the evil that has infected
our beautiful Church. Do we blindly go along with it in the name of
obedience? Or do we speak out and expose it? I get tired of my Church
being ridiculed. Someone said we need an anti-defamation league for our
Church like the Jews have. I agree. When we are confirmed we are
supposed to become soldiers of Christ. How can Catholics fight against
what they don't know about? Ignorance is not always bliss.
God said His people perish for lack of knowledge. We are forced to
accept compromises because we have nowhere else to go. There's not one
good, credible reason why we can't have a Traditional Mass offered in
each parish. Is it laziness on the part of the Priests and people? We
can't even have the consecration bells or the prayer to Saint Michael
We have to tolerate women handing out Communion in inappropriate
attire. One woman passed out Communion in red knee-length shorts and a
tank top. Inexcusable! The Church should never have let feminism
rear its ugly head. We are supposed to be conformed to Christ. The
Church shouldn't conform to the world. If people don't like the rules
then they should leave. Jesus didn't stop people from leaving when He
talked about eating His body and drinking His blood.
Hard sayings indeed!
Thank you and God bless you.
A. [This letter refers to the
two postings below, to be read in sequence - March 6th and March 7th]
May God Bless you, dear sister! Your
complaints are those of Heaven - without a doubt! You state: "How can Catholics fight against what
they don't know about? Ignorance is not always bliss."
Although we do not like words like "fight", "warriors", "army"
etc., your statement is true. Catholics cannot defend their Faith (1) from
the enemies of God because they do not know about it - the Church
Administrator's plan over the centuries is backfiring now. The keeping
of the Faithful "barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen" IS NOT what
Jesus intended (2).
Now, taking it from here we shall address the points you raise -
excellent points which demand
In general, the problem lies in "who is responsible for what" in a
parish. The priest is not
responsible to chastise the Hierarchy from the pulpit, however, the
priest is responsible to strictly adhere to the norms set forth by the
appropriate Vatican Congregations (3) while at the same time
the high dignity demanded during any liturgical event - with Mass at
the top of the list.
Vatican II has been blamed for everything, yet it had a very concrete
purpose. Unfortunately, its purpose (4) was "lost in the
shuffle" and many
parishes were transformed into Faith-demolishing (5) centers - but the
choice was on the local priest's hands, first, and second, on the
We shall explain (all first hand examples in the same major US city
under the same Bishop
of a very large Diocese):
1. A parish under a certain
Religious Order. Vatican II Liturgy was used, while
communion was taken kneeling at the railing. Those who wanted to take
it standing could, but mostly, it was taken on the tongue while
kneeling. Never saw a moment of discord there because of this.
Communion offered by the officiating priest, the assistant priest (who
was not officiating at that Mass but came for offering the communion)
and a brother from the same Order who was also associated with the
parish. No Eucharist
ministers were needed even though the Church would be full.
One of the Masses on Sunday was offered in Latin - although using the
Novus Ordo format. The Music was provided by Gregorian chanters.
2. A parish under another
major Religious Order associated with various educational institutions.
Vatican II Liturgy was used. Altar
area redesigned to mimic a magnificent pagan temple and the
participation of lay ministers was a social event. Will never forget a
Saturday when one of the six to eight! Eucharist Ministers was a local
socialite, obviously on the way to a cocktail party. The plunging
neckline of her silver lamé dress almost showed her abdomen!
It took a supernatural effort to focus on the Holy moment and
not on the "ministers" plunging neckline. The jewels that she was
wearing on fingers, wrists, neck and ears clearly showed why she was
allowed to present herself in the Holy Altar dressed in such manner.
Yes money talks, but with God, it can be made to talk in a different
3. A regular Diocesan parish associated with a large school. New priest
comes in and out goes the last vestiges of the dignity of a Temple of
God. Parents of students and many parish members file formal complaints
against the priest. Complains fall on the deaf ears of the Chancery -
it appears that said priest came form a very influential family. Things
went from bad to worse.
The parishioners are inflamed and so is the parish council which
delivers a message to the Chancery: Either
that priest is removed or
all contributions will stop.
As we said, "money talks" but it is a "two way conversation": The
priest was removed immediately! and the parish and school were restored
to a proper and dignified Novus Ordo Temple of God.
4. A regular Diocesan parish associated with a school. The priest's
faith was non existent BUT God rules and he conducted the parish as
prescribed by the appropriate Ecclesiastical authorities. Lay Ministers
were utilized but he would
not allow women wearing slacks nor men in sports
shirts and no coat to Minister... and everyone toed the line and no
5. A regular Diocesan parish associated with a school. The Temple
itself was a Historical Monument restored to its 19th Century
magnificence - not a trace of Vatican II redecoration although most
Masses were Novus Ordo. When the priest was allowed to offer the
Tridentine Mass, he did once a week on Sunday... to a very, very sparse
congregation. This was the same Church in which we had to cancel the
weekly adoration of the Blessed Sacrament with the intent of ending
abortion due to lack of interest (although the very mediatic
demonstrations at the doors of the local abortion clinics were always
The Sunday afternoon Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament at this parish
continued because the Bishop had ruled, thanks be to God!, that every
single parish in his diocese had to have e few hours of Adoration at
least once a week. Otherwise it would have ended too.... it was usually
Jesus and about half a dozen of us!
Incidentally, the parish mentioned in item No. 1 above used to have
a 9 to 5 Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament once a week. Then it was
cut down to half due to lack of attendance. Many times miguel de
Portugal would stay hours on end offering acts of reparation
because there was no one
there and he would not leave the Exposed
Sacrament facing an empty Church!
Yes, we need an anti defamation group: Each one of us, living (not
talking!) the Faith with love and without fanaticism (6) nor sectarianism (7). That will do it
quite nicely. God does not need supermen, God needs supernatural men (8)
who allow Him to use them in His service and for His Glory.
Incidentally, that city and churches mentioned above were "crawling"
with Opus Dei members; unfortunately, they seem to have been too busy
furthering their agenda and not God's agenda (9).
So you tell us, dear sister: Who are we going to blame?
Each one of us, in our capacity, should do all in our power
(without invading other's territory of responsibility as Altier does)
to correct the misery around us - religious and social. Only those who
do that, as well as those who are desiring to learn what to do, can
complain. The rest should remain quiet until they decide to do
something to remedy the situation. Talk is cheap, and God "does not buy
it" and we don't want to hear it!
Thank you for the opportunity. We pray that you, and all who read the
above, put to use, for the Glory
of God, the information that we have
(1) Our position
regarding the Catholic Faith
the Changes in the Church
real Third Part of the Secret of Fátima - The Motor of Vatican II
Demise of the Faith
IS NOT of God
sects within the Catholic Church function
John Bosco's Trajectory
(9) It is
just a matter of priorities
[Published on March 7th]
Why would you disagree with what Rev. Altier says in his homily? [See
posting dated March 6th below]
he said is the truth. Just as our government thinks they can hide the
truth from us about different issues, our Church does the same thing.
We as Catholics have a right to know why our Church is in shambles. We
give our hard-earned money in the collection basket.
I wrote letters to
the editor of our local newspaper several times during the height of
the scandals trying to defend my Church and I got blasted in
It's getting harder to defend. These problems need to be dealt with,
not covered up.
- Thank you for pointing out something that was not made
crystal clear in our text. We have changed the paragraph to read:
If Rev. Altier feels so
strongly about this, he should quit his post
and pursue his "Voice in the Desert Calling", but not from
pulpit. John the Baptist was
not associated nor
living off the Temple
Masters of Jerusalem. We speak from very
experience - which gives us the authority to do so.
2nd - The tone and content of you communication indicates that you are
not familiar with our position nor our work - even though we provided
more than enough links to our documents to clarify that. We believe
that the best policy before constructive criticism is offered is to be
thoroughly informed about the situation/position/facts. We have chosen
to take your criticism as constructive since the paragraph in question
was not crystal clear for all levels.
3rd - We praise your effort of writing letters to the newspaper editors
and we wish more people would do so instead of "sitting on their hands"
or the equivalent. Do not be discouraged if they "blast" you; however
it would be better if you would defend the
and not the
Church which has an
indefensible track record
because when one blindly
defends the indefensible
, one ends a loser and
the Faith gets smeared
[Published on March 6th]
Q. Note: We have
received two communications regarding Rev. Robert Altier and his
reassignment by Most
Reverend Harry J. Flynn, Archbishop of the Archdiocese of Saint
Paul and Minneapolis, Minnesota, apparently for controversial homilies.
We felt that we were expected to comment on said event, therefore, we
[It appears that Rev. Altier's homilies contain items which reflect his
got sick and tired of all the lies. I just laid it out. There are three
groups that have infiltrated the Church, the Masons, the Communists,
and the homosexuals, who came in 1924," he alleges. "85 percent of all
the abuse cases are homosexual. There is rank homosexuality.
Homosexuals chose the best and brightest and best looking and put them
into the priesthood."
In his homilies he has also openly blamed and chastised Bishops for the
past problems and the
inadequate steps taken to correct an apparently endemic problem., etc.]
We are not unfamiliar with Bishops reassigning or "deactivating"
uncomfortable priests. A dear friend of miguel de Portugal and former
Chaplain of the Sanctuary of Fátima, Portugal, was let go from
the Sanctuary priestly staff as soon as his initial contract expired. A
"right on target" older priest in a small border town (Texas-Mexico)
parish - also a dear friend of m de P - was forced to retire, even
though he was sorely needed in that parish. A young priest in Houston,
Texas, who was packing the Masses as never before was mysteriously
reassigned to "unknown places"; another one in Portugal recently
There is where the similarities with Rev. Altier end. The above alluded
to priests were
removed/reassigend because the Preached the Gospel just as Jesus taught
it and should be preached. However, they refrained from the type of
talk/preaching Rev. Altier seems to have been engaged in. If miguel de
Portugal had been his superior, he would have removed Altier sooner!
Surprised? If you understand what we have published and preached for
years, you should not be. We shall give you a few clues in case that
have said does not make sense.
A very high profiled Bishop in Portugal frequently and publicly stated that he
did not believe in the Fátima events (yet preached from there at
times). The rest of his spirituality was of that same type - very
material. Years ago, m de P wrote to him
suggesting that he resigned from heading that Diocese. He was informed
that his words and actions were giving scandal and causing confusion
the Faithful and that the Diocese would be better off without a Bishop
than with him at its helm. Thanks be to God that in less than a year he
resigned (and not for age limit reasons either).
We have great respect for him now. We do not agree with his views but
he was an upright enough man to act for the benefit of the Faithful
while at the same time did not betray his convictions.
At the height of the popularity of Medjugorje in the U.S. the Bishop of
a large Texas Diocese would allow (and encourage) special Marian
Masses, homilies that touched on the apparitions such as in
Fátima, Lourdes, etc. but not of the ones in Medjugorje. People
were outraged - m de P backed him. The Medjugorje apparitions were
still under investigation and by utilizing the messages in the homilies
would give the wrong impression to the Faithful.
We could continue with many similar examples to illustrate our point,
but the above should be enough.
If Rev. Altier feels so strongly about this, he should quit his post
and pursue his "Voice in the Desert Calling", but not from
pulpit. John the Baptist was
not associated nor
living off the Temple
Masters of Jerusalem. We speak from very
experience - which gives us the authority to do so.
Lest a new reader be confused about our position regarding the recent
sexual scandals in the Church or the
continuing destruction of
Faith from within, we suggest that they review the
following documents that we have published: CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE vs
ABORTION - Which Is The Greatest Transgression, Sexual Abuse of
Children - Its Psychosomatic
Consequences, Risky Sex
Stem From Early Abuse, and
Social and Moral Issues Corner
If the new reader thinks that we are "Hierarchy Lovers", then
review LETTERS TO THE
HIERARCHY OF THE ROMAN AND ORTHODOX
CATHOLIC CHURCHES. What we love is coherence
and what we dislike
is duplicity and fanaticism.
Note: The two
references we were given regarding Rev. Altier were:
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