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Letters/Questions - Addressed on July 2004

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The purpose of this Public Forum is to publicly respond to correspondence that we may receive from time to time and which is of Universal interest in these very unsettling times.

We reserve the right to choose what questions to address and how to transcribe the question and/or statement from the correspondence received. The identity of the correspondent will be kept confidential except in the case of abusive correspondence which will then be referred to the appropriate responsible entities.

From CARB @ Australia [Published on July 26, 2004]

Q. What does Miguel de Portugal has to say about the Neo Catechumenate Way. We are becoming very confused and divided in the parish.

God Bless!


A. We have published two documents which may Light your and your Parish's way regarding this very divisive issue. One of them was published very recently, The Seven Capital Vices of the Ecclesiastical Movements, and another, Simple Questions to Ask Yourself Before Joining an Overly Zealous Religious Group, which we have had on-line for some time now.

From EBM @ USA [Published on July 21, 2004]

Q. I live in the diocese of XYZ, in ABC, USA, and am a member of a Roman Catholic Parish.

There is also a Greek Orthodox Church near where I live, and for awhile, I've been interested in visiting there to attend Sunday Mass.

I have two questions: 1) Will attending a Mass at the Greek Orthodox Church fulfill my Sunday Obligation; and, 2) I've been told that their Sacraments are valid, so may I partake of the Holy Eucharist there (as long as I am not in a state of mortal sin?)

Thank you for your consideration of my questions, and God Bless You!!


A. Your questions are very important in defining the state of affairs "between" the same Church.

Your first and second questions are answered by our posting in our Board of June 29, 2004. We quote:

June 29, 2004 - Solemnity of Sts. Peter and Paul

To commemorate that Bartholomew I, considered first among equals among Orthodox Patriarchs, will participate in the Mass that H.H. John Paul II will preside over in St. Peter's Square on the solemnity of the Apostles Peter and Paul, let us review the True Petrine Ministry. A Ministry definition both men believe in but are not allowed to openly express nor practice.

Your first question needs an additional response: Technically - by the rules of men - A Catholic of the Roman Church will not be allowed to partake of the Sacraments of any of the Orthodox Patriarchal Churches unless they have abandoned the Roman Catholic Church and joined any of the Orthodox Patriarchal Churches, unless, of course, there is a spiritual emergency.

What we suggest that you do, in keeping with the man-made rules [which have nothing to do with God, nor God recognizes them any more than Jesus recognized the equivalent man-made rules of the Temple Masters of His day], is to attend the Sunday vigil Mass on Saturday evening and then attend the Divine Liturgy at the Greek Orthodox Church on Sunday. You may partake of the Blessed Bread (the bread which has been Blessed prior to undergoing transubstantiation) but will not be able to approach the Cup.

For those who enjoy the Roman Tridentine Rite, once exposed to the Orthodox Byzantine Rite, the Tridentine Rite will appear more like the Novus Ordo Mass by comparison. Whoever said that the "Tridnetine Mass is the most beautiful thing this side of Heaven" obviously never participated in a full blown Divine Liturgy of the Byzantine Rite.

From VA @ Australia [Published on July 11, 2004]

Q. (This is part of a lengthy communication which will be answered in full as time allows.)

(a) I do agree 100% of everything you say but at the same time we shouldn't give the blame to Pope John Paul II.

(b) Furthermore, I also believe that we should be obedient to him, but up to the point where we believe its him we are obeying and not his tribe at the Vatican.

(c) Thank you very much for the insightful MGR website, I've been reading your website for some time now after a spiritually 'enlightening' experience of my own. I have to say that the points made appear to make a lot of sense.


A.Your kind words Glorify God Whom we strive to serve.

(a) One thing is what the rank-and-file faithful, clergy and hierarchy can and should do and another is what miguel de Portugal must and, with the appropriate granted authority, is to do. (We refer you to the posting dated June 26 th directly below this response.)

(b) What you express in item (b) above is exactly the way it should be. The problem comes when the Holy Spirit of God is being blocked by the "faithful" thus becoming incapable of discerning which is which. Unfortunately this is true in the majority. Keep in mind - Noah's Arc was not overcrowded with human beings... God does not make mistakes.

(c) The truth makes always much sense; it is perfectly logic and coherent, so long as the condition set forth in item (b) above is fulfilled.

From DS @ Ireland [Published on June 26, 2004]

Q. Thank you very much for the insightful MGR website, I've been reading your website for some time now after a spiritually 'enlightening' experience of my own. I have to say that the points made appear to make a lot of sense.

I have two questions for you:

1) How did Miguel have his own conversion?

2) Some documents on the website ask for the resignation of the present pope, under what authority does the author feel he can demand such actions? Surely this pope is a shining light and whatever contradictions his papacy may hold are likely due to misguided individuals around him.

What say ye?


A.Your kind words Glorify God Whom we strive to serve.

1) The conversion of Miguel took place in an instant/flash, in the most unlikely surroundings and circumstances and at a time when Miguel was seeking supernatural assistance to act in a manner that would have rendered his soul unable/unfit/incapable to carry on the work for which he was created in the first place (clearly seen in retrospect view, of course). In that instant it became crystal clear Who God Was/Is/Will Ever Be and that Miguel's only purpose/function was to serve Him. How? He did not have the faintest idea.

Then the process of physical, psychological and spiritual purification started at an accelerated rate. Six years later, when he had everything any converted-to-God human could possibly have/need (in the spiritual, social and material domains), God said (paraphrasing): "Now, leave all behind and follow Me." He gave Miguel the Grace to say "Yes" in an instant, so he did.

2) The answer to your second question is quite simple and will be give in the form of another question.

Considering that we are at the doors of the End of These Times and that Miguel de Portugal acknowledges that Karol Wojtyla was elected to be the last legitimate successor of Peter, who, then, would be the only one to be in a position to grant such authority to Miguel?

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