The M+G+R Foundation

Private Forum

March 2009


PURPOSE

The purpose of this Private Forum is to share with members of our Mailing List the response to and/or comment of correspondence that we may receive from time to time and which is of Universal interest in these very unsettling times. Each List Member, may, at his/her discretion, share this page with others.

We reserve the right to choose what questions to address and how to transcribe the question and/or statement from the correspondence received. The identity of the correspondent will be kept confidential except in the case of abusive correspondence which will then be referred to the appropriate responsible entities.


From (Mr.) MD @ US - Published on March 29th, 2009 [wording revised to enhance clarity on the 30th]

I've been thinking about something a lot during Lenten season, and having been a reader of your site for some time, I've looked again and again recently but have found no document (yet =) that answers the following question:

If Jesus Christ is truly THE rock upon which the Church is built (which I believe) (1), and Peter and his successors were truly made head of the Church (not THE infallible rock, but rock, which I also believe) (2), then how does one who finds the Catholic Faith fulfilling in so many ways —it is, as you say, "the greatest concentration of Divinely Revealed Truths," (3) (which I believe as well)— reconcile the uneasiness of keeping the Catholic Faith in spite of holding a belief which the Catholic Church would rebellious?

In other words, how do I continue to receive the sacraments and practice the Catholic Faith (4) while having this schism with the core issue of the Church's teaching about the pope?

Your consideration and prayer regarding this matter —for all of us struggling with this— is greatly appreciated. And if time (and the Holy Spirit) allows you a response, please share it with us!

Thanks for all you do,

MD

A. Thank you for the opportunity to address this issue since it is in the mind of many true Christians.

You and I and all those who strive to live the Faith compose the Church. The Church Administration IS NOT the Church, even though for centuries they have attempted to brainwash the Faithful by calling themselves "Mother Church". Mary is our Mother (5) by Divine Decree from the Cross [John 19:26-27] - we have no other mystical Mother. In addition, to confirm that Divine Decree, H.H. Paul VI officially declared Mary to be the Mother of the Church.

Let us review our stance....

Our position has been, is and will ever be, God Willing, the same as that of the original Peter: We ought to obey God, rather than men. [Acts 5: 29]

Thus anything that clearly and unequivocally goes against the explicit Word of God - even when proclaimed by the highest authority of the Church Administration (up to and including the Pope) - does not take precedence over the Word of God. To repeat what Peter said, We ought to obey God, rather than men. [Acts 5: 29]

For example: We uphold a limited claim of Infallibility (2) ("the buck" has to stop somewhere). However, we completely reject the claim of "Blanket Infallibility" (on everything) that the Church authorities have been trying to promote since Vatican I. As we have shown - Holy Scriptures in hand - not even the original Peter claimed 100 % infallibility; furthermore, with his words and deeds, Peter proved his own fallibility.

A review of our document dealing with the current Church Administration positions on many issues (6) will quickly show that - were there a left, a center and a right Catholicism - the Vatican would be at miguel de Portugal's left.

Under today's conditions, should the Faithful refrain from partaking the Sacraments? Certainly not! No man - even the one who now claims to be the Pope - should ever come between God and His children. The Faithful should accept the enormous Graces that God has granted us with properly executed Sacraments. These Graces are necessary, especially as we approach the End of These Times.

What the Faithful must be sure of - to the extent possible - is the validity of the Sacraments. Are the leaders at Mass passing around non consecrated hosts? (7) Was the Sacrament of Matrimony conducted properly (8) - with adequate preparation included? Even in the confessional we must diligently seek orthodoxy. Over 20 years ago m de P's confessor, a Catholic University Chaplain, told him during the Sacrament of Reconciliation that he really did not need to go to confession since his (m de P's) soul was in such advanced state. Obviously, m de P changed confessors.

We shall cap the above with a Biblical Seal by asking these questions: Where did Jesus go on Saturday? To the synagogue and, on special days, to the Temple. Where did the Apostles continue to pray and worship in the early years of Christianity? In the same places. Then, we ask - "Why should the children of God not partake of the Gifts God has lovingly prepared for the benefit of their souls even if the AntiChrist seats in the Chair of Peter?"

Let us not forget that just as The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath. [Mark 2:27], the Church Administration was made for man, and not man for the Church Administration. And, man was made for God! Let us not forget what Jesus made crystal clear at the Last Supper:

12 Then after he had washed their feet, and taken his garments, being set down again, he said to them: Know you what I have done to you? 13 You call me Master, and Lord; and you say well, for so I am. 14 If then I being your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; you also ought to wash one another's feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that as I have done to you, so you do also. [John 13]

It theologically follows that the Administration of the Church is to serve the Church - composed by the living stones, the Faithful. The Church Administration is not to act as if they were part of Pharaoh's Court and lord over the people of God. Did He not say:...?

25.... You know that the princes of the Gentiles lord it over them; and they that are the greater, exercise power upon them. 26 It shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be the greater among you, let him be your minister: 27 And he that will be first among you, shall be your servant. 28 Even as the Son of man is not come to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a redemption for many. [Matthew 20]

As you can readily see: the above crystal-clear teachings from God have been conveniently "filtered out" by the Church Administration's "Cafeteria Catholic" filter.

Once again, we wish to thank you for the opportunity to address these issues and I pray to God that we have done it as clearly as it is humanly possible.

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(1) The Fundamental Rock and the True Petrine Ministry
(2) About infallibility
(3) About the Catholic Faith
(4) About the Sacraments
(5) The Motherhood of Mary
(6) Unchangeable dogmas
(7) On Transubstantiation
(8) About the Sacrament of Matrimony


From (Mrs.) IW @ US - Published on March 26th, 2009

Today I met for confession with my former parish priest. We talked about many things, but I was reminded at that moment from a flyer on his desk, of the installation of the new bishop.....

[For privacy reasons The M+G+R Foundation has deleted the details that followed, however, we can describe its contents in generic terms. A series of religious "coincidences" which connected all with miguel de Portugal and the function he discharges in the Name of God.]

All of these things, at the various times, I felt I should have passed along to you, but neglected to do so.

I spoke with another cooperator of The M+G+R Foundation about this. He told me to contact you and to ask you to pray for me and to listen to any advice you give me.

There is more I could add to this, and how it parallel the Vatican not responding timely to the requests of God, but I want to send you the main part and tell you that I am sorry for not giving the benefit of the doubt to my original feeling that I should tell you this.

Thank you,

(Mrs.) IW

A. Indeed, from a purely scientific point of view, from which m de P can also speak, those "coincidences" were clear acts of Divine Providence.

Why? Quite simple... You have assisted us in many different ways - not only materially but also you are responsible for getting all of our Indexes in shape - a quasi titanic job. Now, you have told us via private communications that, at times, you are not sure that you are doing the right things in relation to your assistance to this work and other matters in your personal life.

Being "not sure of what we are doing" - as long as it is not an obsession - is a blessing from God. The moment a soul is absolutely sure of what it is doing, it has taken the wrong turn.(1) A small dosage of insecurity, which derives itself form a desire to serve God well, insures - without any question whatsoever - God's assistance at every step of the way. God will never, ever!, abandon-to-its-own-devices anyone whose focus is serving Him well regardless of their state in life and their personal failings. A perfect example is that of St. John Bosco.

Therefore, those impossible-by-sheer-chance coincidences were indeed Providential since God was reassuring you that whatever you had been (and were still) doing to assist us was in perfect accordance to His Will.

So far, so good.... The only area of concern would be the reason fro not sharing the information with us as you were moved by Him to do. Now, if that hesitancy was not to take up our time with what could have been unnecessary correspondence - then, there is nothing to be concerned about.

Be at peace - all is really well!
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(1) A classic example is the monster created by Josemaria Escriva.


From WMP @ US - Published on March 22nd, 2009

A while ago you stated that in order for the elect to not lose faith that something was going to happen in November that will make us know what you are saying is true. I am only weakly paraphrasing as I don't remember where I read it refer to.

Did God give us a little more time? Or did something happen behind the scenes that will be revealed later?

Your are of course free to use any of these emails. I can't take up your time for myself if it could help someone else.

Peace to you Miguel de Portugal

WMP

A. Thank you for the opportunity to clarify this issue. First we will reproduce both mailings that addressed the delay issue. Then we will comment.

January 28, 2008

The possibility of a delay or time compression - for the Events related to the End of These Times has been placed in our hands.

This is a momentous manifestation of Divine Grace. If we would act as others expect miguel de Portugal to "act his part" we would get as much "mileage" out of this as it could be possible. However, this is not the Theater of the Apocalypse and there is no "acting" associate with the fulfillment of Divine Will through miguel de Portugal.

To the point!

Within the last hour - during the initial prayers of the day - and in response of prayers offered at the closing of yesterday - here is what I have been made aware of:

1. What is precipitating - and deepening the suffering that will be experienced during the events which will take place without a doubt - as These Times come to an end are:

a. Wanton abortion
b. The Bush Administration Policies to essentially control the Middle East by force under the guise of the Democratization of the "oppressed" people there.

Nothing else has greater effect of the situation at hand. Not even the betrayals of the Religious Institutions.

2. God can alter such effect through the prayer of a segment of His Elect. The number of the Elect participating is not the issue; what matters is the faith of those who will be willing to pray.

3. Up to now - whatever actions that have been taken to secure delays (compression) (whether we were aware or not of what we were doing at the time) have been the sole providence of miguel de Portugal. This time - God Willed that others participate but gave miguel de Portugal the choice - that is - the free will to act upon this opportunity or not.

As you may have "heard us say" many times before: I am quite anxious for this whole thing to go on high gear and to be over with so that I may finally Eternally rest in peace (as Simeon from the Temple Luke 2:29-30). However, given the opportunity to further reduce the suffering and misery of the world as the End of These Times is reached, I cannot but exercise whatever opportunity/power God has placed in my hands to achieve so.

There are some very specific prayers which, in these times of "road Maps" and "Smart Bombs", can be called "Smart Prayers" - that is: They go straight to the core of the problem and their effectiveness is the highest possible since they have been given by God. Instructions for these prayers will be provided to those who are willing to participate in this opportunity for a Grace that we do not deserve - but willingly and gratefully accept.

Time is of the essence since we are seeking compression of events but not lengthening if the period left.

If you are willing to participate in this effort, let us know. Then, we will inform you what will be required.

Many continued Blessing!

miguel de Portugal
+ by the Grace of God


February 10, 2008

May the Peace of God be upon you!

We are very grateful to God to be able to let you know that the prayers offered by those who responded to our call to prayer on January 28th, to attain a further time compression, have been answered. [Any novenas that have not been finished yet should be finished exchanging the favor that was being sought into an act of thanksgiving.]

Understand - the "End Point" has not been changed. What has been changed is the beginning of the final non-stoppable-tumbling-into-the-abyss. This has the effect of time compression - the reduction in the length of the time where the world will be subjected to its greatest trials.

Such time compression also yields less suffering from a different angle - it gives more time for those who have Eyes to See and Ears to Hear - yet are still closed - to be opened minimizing the pain God would have to allow upon them to "wake them up" from their slumber.

In concrete terms we are allowed to tell you that the compression granted is of nine months. Also we can share with you that the outcome of the Campaigning for the US Election, the Conventions and the Election itself will yield the active Will of God - not the passive Will of God. As you may recall - the passive Will of God is when God allows something to happen - which is quite undesirable - in the hopes to teach His children that His way is always best and, as such, should always be our desire.

This does not necessarily meant that m de P knows the Election results. We are not in the "fortune telling business"; we are in the "allowing God to use us to shape the future to His Will".

On a less that happy note - We are sorry that barely 40 % of our List responded to this call to prayer. This is extremely low considering that it is a very refined list - and by request only.

We trust that our invitation to prayer was not taken as a partisan act. Anyone in our List who, by now, may consider that we engage in partisan politics should not be in our list at all and we hope that they request that their name be removed from our lists.

May you and your loved ones have a Blessed First Sunday of Lent!

miguel de Portugal

Comments: The nine month compression did not mean that what was going to take place on February would be delayed until nine months later. The granted nine month delay should be understood as: What was going to take place at point A was delayed to point B thus compressing the period of high suffering by nine months.

Of course, the fact that the US was able to reach to Election date as well as its outcome, in all aspects, confirmed the granted compression.

To better understand this, please review the interview (1) M. Gorbachev granted Crisis Magazine wherein he complained about the ten year delay President Clinton caused to the New International Order. The end point was not delayed but we were granted a ten year compression of the period of great suffering. The achievement of that compression required ongoing behind the scenes activity (2) since a few months before Clinton was elected until the Lewinsky entrapment was finally, and unsuccessfully, concluded.
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(1) The achievement of the ten year delay is made public
(2) There is a very extensive "paper trail" of this activity.


From PP @ US - Published on March 18th, 2009
Dear Miguel,

As I said before I continue visiting your site because I am interested in the truth. I believe in a lot of what you say.

I am not a pre-vatican 2 catholic, however I believe there has been a rupture with the pre-vatican 2 church. The one issue that I can't get my arms around is this issue of "the jews".

Are they our "elder brothers in faith" as the past 4-5 popes have said ? Is their covenant still valid? Are they saved without believing in Jesus? What is a zionist, jew today, or orthodox jews? Aren't they the "synagogue of satan"? What about the following info : [edited out]

PP

A.
Based on your past commuincations and comments...as we read your salutation and introduction we had flashbacks of Matthew 22:

16 And they sent to him their disciples with the Herodians, saying: Master, we know that thou art a true speaker, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou dost not regard the person of men. 17 Tell us therefore what dost thou think, is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? 18 But Jesus knowing their wickedness, said: Why do you tempt me, ye hypocrites?

Febbly imitating my Master - as we all should in all things - I will respond.

(a)
Are they our "elder brothers in faith" as the past 4-5 popes have said ?

What was the faith that Jesus practiced and to what ethnic group did He belong? Christianity is a continuation of Judaism. Jesus and the first Christians were all Jews religiously and ethnically.

(b)
Is their covenant still valid?

God answered that question several thousands of years ago:

1
And now, O Israel, hear the commandments and judgments which I teach thee: that doing them, thou mayst live, and entering in mayst possess the land which the Lord the God of your fathers will give you. 2 You shall not add to the word that I speak to you, neither shall you take away from it: keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. 3 Your eyes have seen all that the Lord hath done against Beelphegor, how he hath destroyed all his worshippers from among you. 4 But you that adhere to the Lord your God, are all alive until this present day. 5 You know that I have taught you statutes and justices, as the Lord my God hath commanded me: so shall you do them in the land which you shall possess: 6 And you shall observe, and fulfill them in practice. [Deut. 4]

which is also fully applicable to Christians AND Muslims because....

Jesus said:

17 Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. [Matthew 5]

and through Mohammed (in S.III.49) God underscored what Jesus taught:

"And appoint him (Jesus) a messenger to the Children of Israel, with this message: [ In the following statement it is Jesus speaking, according to Prophet Mohammed's account]

"I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God's leave... I have come to you to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was before forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear God and obey me."

(c) Are they saved without believing in Jesus?

I am miguel de Portugal, not God. The final judgment of any human being is the sole and exclusive providence of God Almighty - with NO exceptions.

(d) What is a zionist or jew today?

As we have explained before:

zionist - a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.
Origin: 1895–1900

Jew : 1. one of a scattered group of people that traces its descent from the Biblical Hebrews or from postexilic adherents of Judaism; Israelite. 2. a person whose religion is Judaism.

Obviously not all zionists are Jews nor all Jews are zionists.

(e) What is an orthodox jews?

We ask you: What is an orthodox Christian? There is only one type of Christian and it is the one who strives, in a level headed manner, to live the teachings of Jesus Christ - without fanaticism nor sloppiness. That should answer your original question.

(f) Aren't they the "synagogue of satan"?

The prior answers should answer that question. In case we have not been clear we shall use a parable: Are all Catholics members of Opus Dei?

(f) What about the following info : [edited out]

We very seldom review material sent for the simple reason that we do not even have enough time to either write and publish important information that we posses nor publish what we have written for over two decades and lays undisturbed in our files. If there is something that we must read - God has a way of letting miguel know in no uncertain terms.

We thank you for the opportunity to clarify the above points.


From M. Gorbachev @ Telegraph - UK - Published on March 15th, 2009

America is in urgent need of its own 'perestroika' and its days as the world’s superpower have ended.

Everyone is used to America as the shepherd that tells everyone what to do but this period has already ended. That’s why there must be solidarity and partnerships. One single country can never rule the whole world.

M. Gorbachev
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(1) His full statements


A. Well, sir, we certainly cannot say that you have not been warning us about this for a long, long time via several channels:

My time has not come yet
Clinton Delayed the Establishment of the New World Order (i.e. Global perestroika)
Gorbachev Calls for "Central Soviet" to Run Global Economy
...and much more...

Yes, sir... you have made your point well and the West has proven to be as blind and deaf as you thought it was. They never even caught on who was the Godfather of the New World Order.


From CL @ US (?) - Published on March 12th, 2009

Sirs: With great respect I wish to disagree with your statement of ‘God giving up on...’ and point out to you God in His mercy and goodness never gives up. He is always with us, with His Church even when we feel He is not.

The only point in time that He will never be with us is when we distance ourselves past the point of redemption and reside in Hell – where we are then truly outside His presence which is pure Hell.

CL

A. (1) Kindly provide the entire content from which you quote ‘God giving up on...’. Then. we will respond via one of our public forums.

Thank you for writing.

The M+G+R Foundation

P.S. I the meantime, you may want to review what we have published regarding His Mercy. You are obviously not familiar with our publications - thus our position regarding the matter of Mercy.

About Divine Mercy
Mercy in Action - Part 1
Mercy in Action - Part 2
Mercy in Action - Part 3

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(1) Answered via e-mail three months ago. We never received a response.


From A. Zibel, C. Leonard and T. Paradis @ AP Business Writers - Published on March 8th, 2009

When will this wretched economy bottom out? The recession is already in its 15th month, making it longer than all but two downturns since World War II. For now, everything seems to be getting worse: The Dow is in free fall, jobs are vanishing every day, and one in eight American homeowners is in foreclosure or behind on payments. (1)
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(1) As published through Yahoo! News


A. It will not. There is no going back to the state where the world was before the descent started. It is a one way trip for all. A very "good trip" for some and a very "bad trip" for others. Come, walk The Steps with us and learn what the future of humanity holds.


From (Mr.) IW @ US -
Published on March 5th, 2009

In reference to your comments about the seemingly common practice of burying a statue of St. Joseph in the yard to sell one's house...
We listed our home for sale on 7/4/04 and for 2 1/2 months didn't receive an offer. My wife heard of this concept regarding St. Joseph and after complying with the the protocol, the house was sold in four days.

The statue that we buried for 3-4 days, now occupies a prominent spot in our home. Trying to sell the house
was not an attempt to serve mannon, but not to have to pay costs on two homes. We were extremely glad for the help that St. Joseph gave us, if indeed that's what it was.

Sincerely
IW

A.
First of all, we value your sincerity in sharing this with us since you well know that we "talk straight" just as our Lord and Master did (1).

Secondly, when we stated:
Today's Mass reading warns us that you cannot serve God and mammon it referred to the Blue Army promoting such concept and not about the users who are just victims of what the Church, which was originally founded by Jesus Christ, turned into (2) at the hands of its Administrators.

We are not surprised - Aaron set the pace - we can read about it in Exodus 32. Somewhere along the line the Church Administrators (and those who follow what is not of God) did not get to the end of that chapter wherein we read: And I, in the day of revenge, will visit this sin also of theirs. The Lord therefore struck the people for the guilt on occasion of the calf which Aaron had made.

We do not doubt that it works, just like necromancy and fortune tellers are realities (3), just like Pharaoh's magicians [Exodus 7:11] caused their rods to turn into serpents, just like Simon, Elymas and Bar-jesu the magicians mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles existed, just like the properly made "spells" of santeria, witchcraft, voodoo, etc. work.

They work because, as we have explained elsewhere, there are ways of getting things done resorting to methods which are known to the initiates of the occult, however, just because they work that does not mean that they are from God.

When we resort to what is explicitly forbidden by God to secure anything we are, in effect, attempting to by pass God. He may allow that transgression to teach us a lesson - for whatever is obtained through supernatural means bypassing God has a price. Whatever God willingly and lovingly grants to those who appeal to Him in accordance to His Laws carries no price - it is freely given by an infinitely Loving God.

Not only we are fully aware about all of this through Divine Revelation, we also have enough concrete examples to fill a large book.

Therefore - when we have an isntitution/organization that people still respect (out of ignorance) -like the Blue Army (4), promoting what is tantamount to idolatry and advanced santeria -we have a major problem.... but then again, those who have Eyes and Ears know that and, blessedly, it will be taken care of soon.

To tell you otherwise, we would be lying to you and we do not even do that to the very few individuals who have been moved by God to financially assist in this work. To alter the truth for money is called: Prostitution [Revelations chapters 17 and 18]

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(1) Jesus Speaks Clearly
(2) Jesus Christ condemns the Roman Church Administration
(3) About fortunetellers and necromancy
(4) The rise and fall of the Blue Army


From (Mrs.) IW @ US - Published on March 1st, 2009

....You had said before about lack of trust in m de P, and I probably mistrusted again recently, when I read the Mystical City book.

I felt at the time that I should not read it since you said it came from Hell and that you could not read it, but I justified it to myself that it would be safe since you were asking and did not pay attention to warnings.

I wish I would have questioned you about that.....

(Mrs.) IW

A.
Thank you for this opportunity to clarify one more time our positions.

(a) If any of our visitors read (in documents or correspondence) something that does not seem to them coherent with what we stand for, they should ask. We do not always express ourselves well enough and, when juggling three different languages which are culturally spoken differently in four continents, it is easy to use an expression out of context and a reader may misunderstand a key point.

(b) In regards to what we asked you to do regarding the book - We our quoting below the correspondence dealing with such request.

The M+G+R Foundation to Mrs. IW - January 29, 2009

Because of the vision problem we have to be very brief and leave out the usual details of the background. If something is not clear - do ask.
....

We need to find out of if those alleged statements quoted from Agreda's City of God - or similar - are from her.

We have found Agreda's Mystical City of God on line and we need you to eye- scan or search for statements that may confirm the above allegedly Agreda mentality.

We do not need many - just serious and obviously NOT out of context. Then we will try to confirm them in the original Spanish Language.

If you need further clarification, please, let us know.

From Mrs. IW to The M+G+R Foundation - January 29, 2009

I will skim through the online book and copy out anything of that nature to send to you.

......

From Mrs. IW to The M+G+R Foundation - January 30, 2009

I started reading this last evening and want to make sure I am on the right track and find out when you need it completed.

Here are samples of what I found-- would you verify that this is the sort of thing you want?

(The M+G+R Foundation notes: The last quote presented by Mrs. IW was from Book 2 - out of 8 Books - Chapter 1)


The M+G+R Foundation to Mrs. IW - January 30, 2009

This is the type of material we are looking for.

However - we would not want you to have to read the entire book unless you wish to do so.

From Mrs. IW to The M+G+R Foundation - January 31, 2009

Here are some items I clipped and marked in bold text that did not sound right/sit well with me. Sorry for the long passages, but I wanted to give you the context.

I read the first two sections of the book, but just "eyeballed" the rest. It is a disturbing book,....

The M+G+R Foundation to Mrs. IW - January 31, 2009

First of all - we sincerely thank you and praise God for accepting to be exposed to this for the benefit of the function m de P must fulfill. The writing in question is an outrage of the First Class.

As you may see from the exchange - you were never asked to read the book. Just to eye-scan it (skim it?) for a few glaring theological errors. m de P could not do the skimming through it because it was on line and his vision problem would not allow it.

We would have never asked you or anyone else to read that book considering our evaluation of it.

Thus, the point we are illustrating "in full color" is that indeed :
If any of our visitors read (in documents or correspondence) something that does not seem to them coherent with what we stand for, they should ask

Thank you for the opportunity to heavily underscore this to our full readership and deeply regret the inconvenience that you experienced due to misunderstanding our request.


From miguel de Portugal @ EU - US -
Published on February 26th, 2009

Now that man has clearly established and unequivocally proven to God that the only way he will uphold Divine Law (in this case - Thou shalt not kill) (1)
is by bringing him to his knees (in this case quasi financial ruin), He will swiftly act so that all other Divine Laws will also be upheld.

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(1) Did You Know That....? posting of Febraury 26



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