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Letters/Questions - Addressed on  October and November 2007

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From YdM @ USA - Published on November 29th, 2007

Q. Please read the following announcement for your discernment and comments.

Oprah Winfrey will be letting out all the stops on her XM Satellite Radio program this coming year. Beginning January 1, 2008, Oprah & Friends will offer a year-long course on the New Age teachings of A Course in Miracles. A lesson a day throughout the year will completely cover the 365 lessons from the Course in Miracles Workbook

YdM


A.  As we have stated before (1), the spiritual/supernatural domain has laws just as the physical domain does.  [We are referring to natural laws like the law of gravity and not civil laws.]

If one gains knowledge of certain
spiritual/supernatural laws one can start working miracles (2) - how else do you think the practitioners of the occult work their miracles? [Remember that Pharaoh's magicians could turn their staffs into snakes.- Exodus 7:11]

The problem lies in the fact that if we attempt to work miracles "outside God", that is, not in accordance to His Will, there will be a high price to be paid.


Why? First, we are trying to "play God". Second, we infer that we know what, and when, is really best and God does not. In either case - we drift away from God's Protective Wing
(3) and when we do so we become easy pray for satan and his minions.

We ask two questions to illustrate one example: Which is the reputed center of voodoo practitioners? Haiti. What is the condition of Haiti - financially, political and socially? The worse in the Americas and even rivaling the other poorest nations of the world.

miguel knows well many of those spiritual/supernatural laws and, many years ago, God tested him regarding what he would do with that knowledge. Through His Grace miguel would not take advantage of them for, through that same Grace, miguel knew that whatever we ask of God with a sincere heart and truly defer to His Will it would be granted - or a better equivalent - at the perfect time and at no cost.

We think that the above have clarified our position regarding A Course of Miracles and any other New Age
(5) gimmick.

We thank you for the opportunity.

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(1)  About Parapsychology
(2) The dangers of false religious asceticism
(3) Remaining under God's Protective Wing
(4) The New Age movement is not just a harmless fad




From IC @ Philippines - Published on November 25th, 2007 [Feast of Christ The King]

Q. You recently mentioned that "...we should not comparing ourselves with others; we must only keep our eyes fixed on those Heavenly Set Goals...".

My question is: While we strive to be as close to Christ (i.e. perfect) as is humanly possible, is it not appropriate that we look upon others (say, such as St. Don Bosco) as signposts to our ultimate goal?

The purpose is not to be that person's clone, as circumstances and/or  God-given abilities differ for each person, but rather to remind ourselves what is possible when we put our faith in God.

I do this from time to time: aside from asking myself what Jesus would want me to do, I also look upon others for inspiration. Is this wrong?
 
Also, I hope God will allow you to one day share those examples of Miguel's you mentioned. I am certain that many would benefit, myself included.
 
May God continue to bless and guide you all.

IC

A.  No. To look at others for inspiration - that is, as a reminder that  "With the help of God all is possible even for humans." is not wrong.

To use an image representing say, Jesus, as a meditative focal point for a prayer  is not wrong either.  What happens is that most will slip into idolatry without realizing it.  This occurs when no longer any image of Jesus would serve as an adequate focal point for prayer - they suddenly "just need" a particular "miraculous image".... and Presto! ... they have fallen into full fledged idolatry
(1).

When man starts focusing too much on a Saint - say, John Bosco (2) - as
a reminder that  "With the help of God all is possible even for humans." soon enough man will start shifting his focus from Jesus to the favorite Saint in question and Presto!... they have fallen into idolatry too.

Man is too prone to slip into whatever is wrong, therefore, we must, at all times, avoid situations which have been proven risky and treacherous.

About miguel's examples to share.... Although it would give us great joy.... it may be not possible for now due to time limitations.... This letter which we are now addressing was sent to us  August 31st, 2006 - over one year ago! - and, as important as it is, we had not been able to address it yet.

This embarrassment comes after sending a letter of apology to a collaborator from the Ukraine who had written to us on January 2007 with a very important question/concern and we had mis filed it  - thus, remains still unanswered and, as we just said, he is one of the very, very, very few collaborators that we have.

On the positive side - we cannot be accused of favoritism....

Obviously we do not have much time to spare and, since "the infallible ones"
(3) reside in Vatican City, we do make mistakes. We pray and trust that Christ the King (4), Whom we strive to serve as only He deserves, makes up for miguel's miserable human limitations.

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(1)  About Idolatry
(2) The shining example of John Bosco
(3) About "The Infallible Ones"
(4) If the New Age movement were to dethrone Christ the King, who would take His place?



From M&P S @ Portugal - Published on November 22nd, 2007 [U.S. Thanksgiving Day]

Q. As you know, the Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden by their beliefs from accepting blood transfusions - even in death threatening circumstances.

That may be well for adults who should be fully conscious of their actions but, what about minors?  Children who are not even mature enough to understand the faith they may die for?

Should physicians do it anyway overruling the legal guardians of the minors?

Should the law of the land forbid it?

We would appreciate your views since this is an issue we hear about in portugal quite frequently.

M&P S

A.
Frankly, the question has stumped us since a law forbidding this practice would appear to be a clear civil interference with religious freedom - even when minors are involved.

We were stumped until God shed light on the issue, that is.

An adult cannot be forbidden by law to commit suicide, however, when the life of a minor is at stake the situation changes. Would the law of any civilized country allow the sacrifice of children to the deity of the parents/townspeople choice?  Of course not!

Would the law of any civilized country allow the sacrifice of an adult to the deity of their choice? Of course  not - if someone else is "handling the death blow"; that would be murder.   However, the adult is free to climb to the edge of a volcano and dive in - head first - as an offering to his/her god.

Therefore - imposing rules - any rules - on minors, or adults who are not in full possession of their mental faculties, which will cause their death is murder. The precedent is set as we showed above.

As if that precedent was not sufficient - the "....just because the Bible says so and I believe it so I will do it...." (1) justification does not authorize behavior that may be contrary to the "laws and/or customs of the land". What happens to those who claim that polygamy is Biblical and they will practice it on religious grounds? Most likely they will end up in jail as we have recently seen with Mr. Warren Jeffs in the U.S.

Let us now act and pray so that the above presented solution be  implemented.

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(1) About Biblical Literalism and Symbolism Part I and Part II


From JM @ US - Published on November 21st, 2007 [Mary's Presentation]

Q. May the Countenance of Our Lord shine upon you and all who read these remarks this All Souls' Day Friday...

..something tells me to write a few lines to you this Friday afternoon as I think about my faith and how I have fallen short of my own expectations in pleasing Him....

I think about the careless handling at Holy Mass of the species which become the Body and Blood of Our Lord only when the proper formulae and invocations are performed specifically to include all the patens and ciboria to be used in THAT PARTICULAR SACRIFICE as you have amply explained (1). I think about how the current practice today seems to be "if we consecrated a Host at a previous Mass, then it's acceptable to re-use it again whether we include it under the hands of the celebrant or not" and how a certain Father told me "you'll just have to trust us."

I felt prompted to reflect with you on these topics as I reacted to today's "Points To Ponder"  (November 2nd) regarding all those who march to Holy Communion without regard for the purity of their souls or who feel the need for the Sacrament of Reconciliation as a required precursor to a worthy reception of The Eucharist. Most specially those self assured "Catholics" who consider themselves worthy to touch the Precious Substance as Eucharist Ministers or those who partake in the "communion in hand" method.  In my humble opinion every person who touches the Host should be required to have a priest hear his confession or be granted a general absolution.

I think about all these things when a priest tells me that attending Mass is the  most important single act of worship an individual may perform. I wonder if it is a "True Mass" - as we expect it to be - but seeing and questioning it in ways I mention above. Logically, following that reasoning, the greatest sin might then be considered to be "the sin of missing Mass". Priests more and more seem to be focusing on missing or attending Mass as the single defining characteristic of  "a good and faithful Catholic"

I happen to feel that if I miss Mass I need to make a Reconciliation before I can receive the Host in good conscience. Then, I can say, I miss Mass more often than I would like but the every time I "miss Mass.. must make confession"  keeps me away more often than not.

So while I may seem to be on a treadmill of sorts, I feel I have described the condition of what many priests would call "unmotivated Catholics" and a condition that troubles many of us but find ourselves "caught in" nonetheless.

The point in my writing on these subjects is because I feel that many Catholics have concerns in the same areas and an encouragement that  we can share and reflect together and strengthen our faith in the sharing of personal  experiences under the discerning eye of miguel de Portugal and the Holy Spirit.

Comments appreciated.

JM


A.
We will start our response with a series of New Testament readings since the straight forward Word of the Living God surpasses any human doctrine.

Jesus did not warn us about, and teach us, the following for no reason:

For they bind heavy and insupportable burdens, and lay them on men's shoulders; but with a finger of their own they will not move them. [Matthew 23:4]

Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you go round about the sea and the land to make one proselyte; and when he is made, you make him the child of hell twofold more than yourselves. [Matthew 23:15]

Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness. [Matthew 23:25]

For whosoever shall do the will of my Father, that is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother. [Matthew 12: 50]

Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind. [Matthew 22: 37]


The "motor" that should move us in every aspect of our lives is the love of God; a love with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind. Thus we should strive for such state by asking Him in prayer.

Love for God, as you know, is not purchased "at the Mall".  As the love for God increases in our hearts, we will become more of Jesus' "...brother, and sister, and mother." That is - His real family. It then logically follows that we will love our neighbor as ourself. It is impossibly to truly love God and not "love thy neighbor as thyself." (2)

As we become His real family, we will automatically strive to keep the inside of  "....the cup and of the dish." even cleaner than the outside. We do not need to impress anyone - we just need to please God.

Simultaneously with all of this, the desire to partake of the Sacrifice of the Mass, will increase until, state-in-life and/or other circumstances permitting, the last thing that one will want to miss on any day would then be Holy Mass. For those whose state-in-life and/or other circumstance are prevented from frequenting Mass, then the real sacrifice to be offered to God  is precisely not being able to partake of the mysteries of the Holy Mass on a frequent basis.

Therefore - the "Motor" to drive us to Mass is simply our love for God and love for our neighbors (3) and not doctrinal threats.

For example: We say "no to abortion" - under any circumstance - not because of doctrine; not because of the law; not because of appearances, but because our love for God.

We strive not to sin in the least bit, not because we are holy and good (only God is holy and good); we do so out of not wanting to grieve Whom we love so much and harm our neighbor - who we also love.  What sets the children of God apart is that we admit our inclination to sin - while most others deny (4) it. When we admit it, we have His assistance (5) to avoid sin and stay close to "Home"; when we deny it we surely fall.

We trust that we have answered your concerns and questions - even those which were not asked - in full.

We thank you for the opportunity to serve Him in spite of our great limitations.

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(1) About Proper Transubstantiation
(2) "Love thy neighbor" does not mean that one most like one's neighbor or want to be friends with him/her. "Love thy neighbor" is to desire upon your neighbor all the good from God that you desire for yourself.
(3) Our participation in the redemption of mankind
(4) The dangers of denial
(5) It is one step at a time... while holding the Hand of God.


From RC @ US - Published on November 17th, 2007 [Mary, Mother of Divine Providence]

Dear Miguel,
 
Today's readings [Luke 17: 26-37]  remind us that it was "business as usual" for most at the time of Noah and Lot.
 
However, not everyone was swept up in the fashion of the times, certainly not Noah and Lot.
 
I am sure that many felt that Noah and Lot had bumped their heads when they "fell off the turnip truck."
 
Indeed, it must have appeared that each lived an "alternate reality."
 
As you have pointed out, when you pray and do God's will, He showers you with Graces so that it becomes easy for you to see what others cannot even imagine.  Best of all, you no longer have to "believe" that this is reality, you know that you are living reality.
 
The Kingdom of God is not for all.  He offers it only to those who have listened and followed the Word of God.
 
At some point, as it rained and flooded, or as fire and brimstone fell from the sky, the jokes about Noah and Lot were a lot less funny.
 
But, that was of no concern to Noah and Lot who were on their way elsewhere.
 
We are all with you, Miguel.  We are aware of what is to happen and continue to pray that God gives you the wisdom, patience and courage in the days ahead.
 
Peace

RC


A. 
Your kind words Glorify God Whom miguel strives to serve as He deserves and in spite of his many limitations.

You have heard us say many times that we have not learned in 6,000 years.  What makes it even worse is that we keep making the same mistakes over and over again - that is how stupid man, without God, is.

When God revealed to miguel [
in 1991 - 1992 time frame] what eventually appeared in the Sequence of Events, (1) He also communicated to miguel that: (a) Initially most will consider him insane - starting with the prophecy of Step No.1; and that (b) It would indeed take the fulfillment of Step No.1, for those who  need to wake up and listen, to realize that all else in the Sequence will also come to pass.

miguel could logically be considered functioning as Nostradamus in reverse as we have explained elsewhere.  It is very easy to write almost intelligible quatrains and let those who come behind try to fit them with what would happen in the ensuing 500 years. The "proof of the pudding", as it is said in the U.S., is to announce 16-20 years in advance that:

 Step No.1

 As a result of the errors spread by (Soviet) Russia, a nuclear attack is initiated against the United States of America and other nations of the Western World. China will play a major role. This will lead to a worldwide and brutal conflagration of devastating magnitude.

 a. Nations will be annihilated as it was specifically predicted by the Blessed Virgin Mary in Fátima, Portugal, in 1917.
 b. Godlessness [this is a more comprehensive term than Communism] will engulf the world and the Church will be ruthlessly and brutally persecuted with the objective of destroying it.

[Luke 21:9-10, Joel 1:5-7, 10-12, 19-20, Revelations 18:2-20]

That is the only way (2) those who need to respond - and believe - will realize that it was them who were living an alternate reality and not miguel de Portugal.

We continue to pray for a Green Apocalypse; that is, pleading with God so that most of the Divine Justice is dispensed through natural disasters - floods, earthquakes, hurricanes and comets - and not through the massive use of nuclear weapons. Oh, yes - we will not escape the consequence of the use of nuclear weapons since prophecy will be fulfilled; however, technically it could be reduced to only one or two major ones.

We are at peace - All have been adequately warned
(3) considering the lack of backers that we have had in 16 years and continue to not have.

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(1)  The Sequence of Events
(2)  Divine Mercy in Action
(3) All Have Been Adequately Warned


From BK @ USA - Published on November 13th, 2007

I have a question regarding validly consecrated Hosts.
 
We have a 5 pm Mass on Sundays as our parish is the designated "Parish" for our Vicariate.
 
I was at Church prior to the designated time for the Mass.  At about 5:05 it was apparent to me that there was no priest for this Mass (the Pastors of the churches in our Vicariate rotate taking turns to serve this Mass.  Our Pastor of this particular church was of course, nowhere to be found, but that's another story).  The Mass coordinator announced that there was to be a Communion Service with Consecrated Hosts taken from the Tabernacle.
 
Now is where it gets tricky!
 
My children (aged 15 and 19) were at the 5pm Vigil Mass on Saturday.  There were three little girls making their First Holy Communion.  The celebrant of this Mass called the little girls up onto the Altar.  At the end of the Consecration, when the priest elevates the Body and Blood, he stopped and gave each of the girls a platter of Hosts and instructed them to elevate as he did.
 
I have knowledge of what occurred yesterday.  Was I in error to not partake of the Communion service as I question the validity of the Consecrated Hosts in the Tabernacle?  Or am I a Pharisee and am I too scrupulous?
 
May God continue to bless you in all you do for His glory!!

BK


A.
Confusion continues to reign amongst the shepherd and what you report in your letter is one more example of it.  We understand that by "the Elevation" you meant during the final doxology ("Through Him, with Him, in Him. . . ) and then the Great Amen.

First of all, the priest should not have involved the girls in what is strictly a priestly function.  He is giving erroneous signals to the children and adults alike.

Second - We feel that the real symbolism of this second elevation is the priestly offering of the Sacrificial Lamb to the Father as the perfected offering as opposed to what used to be done under the Old Testament. At that time, the sacrificed animal was slaughtered, then offered to God and then eaten by the Faithful.

Even in pagan rituals, the food is first offered to the idol in question and then the idolaters eat the food.

We feel that there is more than enough reason to disqualify the offering that priest made. If the priest performed the consecration properly
(1) , then the species were the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ - but the final step to validate the Eucharist Offering must be precisely the offering of the Sacrificial Lamb to the Father by the priest and, in this case,  some were not.

Regarding your reaction - If you felt that it was wrong to consume one of those hosts you acted correctly, but if you had, out of ignorance, you would not have offended God although the validity of that communion would have been doubtful.

I would have recommended not to partake of the communion on the basis of endorsing scandalous behavior at the altar; i.e. not having the priest presenting (elevating) the offering to the Father.

Therefore it is our opinion that you acted correctly "on all fronts".

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(1)  Conducting a valid Consecration


From VdP @ USA - Published on November 9th, 2007

In reference to the mail out (1) by the American Family Association: "Federal government tells 85-year-old grandmother not to put an angel on Christmas tree".

I do not know how the law would apply in this case, but it looks to me that somebody might be forgetting the constitutional right to free expression. The management of the HUD complex may not be able to place religious signs or symbols, but a private citizen like the lady in question has the right to do so anywhere, provided she does not offend any of her neighbors who share the area outside her door.
 
I live in one such HUD unit and if the management told me I could not place a sign or symbol outside my door claiming it is a "commons area", I will then tell them who sweeps and maintains that area and who walks through it.
 
Those of you who might know the law, please tell me if I am right.

VdP

A. As you know, we do not give legal advice.  We try to strictly adhere to:  Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God, the things that are God's.  [Matthew 22:21]  Therefore, we will address the part of the issue that you have raised up which is of God.

Invoking the same source - the Holy Word of God - we call your attention to:

Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and not one of them shall fall on the ground without your Father. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: better are you than many sparrows. Every one therefore that shall confess me before men, I will also confess him before my Father who is in heaven.  But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. [Matthew 1: 29-33]

Therefore no HUD regulation could be passed and upheld unless God would allow it.  Then, when God allows something that in the surface appears to the world as bad, we must ask ourselves why has He allowed it.

The celebration of the Birth of Our Savior - Christmas - has become an orgy of consumerism, fountain of family discord and source of indebtedness beyond the means of the individuals. Sixty years ago, the gift giving and receiving was already the central theme of said celebration - and not the Birth of Christ. Now, of course, it has reached the point where we have heard many people actually curse Christmas because it has become such "a pain in the neck"  in all aspects.

All of this, of course, offends God greatly. Therefore, for the benefit of our soul since....

Amen I say to thee, thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing. [Matthew 5: 26]

...the best thing to do is to stop us from offending Him.

The best way to stop us from offending Him is to block whatever we do which causes the offense - thus, the way the world has been celebrating Christmas is being blocked with God's Blessing.

It is really that simple.

We thank you for the opportunity to set the record straight.
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(1)  We will forward the referred to mailing upon request.



From KD @ USA - Published on November 8th, 2007

Very early in 2007 you mentioned in one of your communications that you are praying that everybody will be spiritually prepared for what will happen during this year.

Are you at liberty to explain more fully what you meant by that statement?

As always, may God continue to bless your work.

Sincerely,

KD

A.
The answer/explanation to that statement may be found within a document (1) (and links from it) which we re issued today after enhancing the information/links contained in it, as well as on the Public Forum posting From LP @ USA   [Published on January 20th]. (2)

From secondary sources: If one carefully reviews the unfiltered - but level headed - news throughout the globe: political, natural phenomena, social and financial, one may see that the Apocalypse is already well underway for many, many people.  Once Step No. 1 (3)  is manifested, then it will be like a world wide roller coaster ride until the End of These Times.

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(1) About National Security
(2) Public Forum - January 2007
(3) The Sequence of Events


From RC @ USA - Published on November 5th, 2007

Note from The M+G+R Foundation: To assist the reader in maintaining the focus on the Question and Answer fro each point raised we will respond within the text of RC.

Q. Is it true that after a life is completed, He will step in at the last moment for everyone and give them a warning and more important, a chance to change, or is it too late?  That is, like THE WARNING?
 
A. As we illustrated  (1) - we were addressing those who may have not known Jesus Christ through no fault of their own. Those who have chosen to reject Him or refuse His Word, will have much to suffer after body-sould separation (Purgatory) if they were indeed marked for Heaven. (2)

Q. I guess I am always hopeful about the unfathomable Mercy of God, but as you have pointed out, even God has limits on His Mercy.
 
A.  The entire Old Testament and the Book of the Apocalypse graphically shows that God is indeed slow to anger but His patience has limits. His Mercy (3) has no limits to those who appeal to it with sorrowful and contrite heart - although some purifying suffering does apply.

Q. Regarding our "mistakes" in life:   I have gotten the impression that not all bad things happen because someone did something wrong.  I see this in medicine all the time.  That is, you do not always get what you deserve.  Sometimes you have good health through no act of you own.  Similarly, you may have poor health but it is not your fault.  More often, you do everything wrong and do not die or even get sick.
 
A. In each case that we have reviewed that appears to exemplifies what you relate above, we have been able to find the "hand of man" behind every misery.

Also, it is frequently (so as not to say "always") the case that when "...you do everything wrong and do not die or even get sick." that soul is destined for hell.  Remember - Pain is the megaphone that God uses for the deaf to hear (4) ; thus, if an individual needs not to hear Him, why inflict pain?  God does not like to inflict pain. We force His hand every time.

Q. Jesus was condemned to death because of a "mistake"  in the justice system of the time, but it was part of the plan.
 
A. No; there was no mistake in the Temple Master's Justice System.  He was a threat to their Godless way of life. His crucifixion indeed was part of the plan of Salvation: God allowed the sin of Judas Iscariot (5) to be combined with the sins of the Temple Masters to produce the desired results - the opportunity for Salvation for mankind.  That is why we often repeat that even satan has to serve God.

Q.
I am reluctant to say that a person who is most holy and devout passes through life without pain and suffering and makes no mistakes.
 
In fact, someone once observed that God does wonderful things with civil injustice and mistakes.
 
A. We addressed that in the above remarks.

Q. On the other hand, I suppose you could argue that if one was perfect, there would be no mistakes and things would still have gotten accomplished, but with less pain and suffering.
 
A. Taking the characteristics of the soul to perfection (which of course, is never achieved) - as "perfection" is approached there would be less necessary pain and suffering for the benefit of said soul but that same individual may accept joyfully much suffering for the benefit (6) of other souls.

Q. This is probably not important in the end, but I was just thinking.  Again, I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction.

A. Well - technically it is "not important in the end" since "in the end" it would be too late already to minimize earthly (7)  and purgatorial suffering.

NOTES                                                 

(1) About Men and Angels
(2) About Time and Eternity
(3)  The Unfathomable Mercy of God
(4) Pain as a "sound" amplifier
(5) The Sin of Judas
(6) Redemptive Suffering
(7) Divine Mercy In Action


From KH @ USA - Published on November 2nd, 2007 [All Souls Day and [First Friday of Reparation]

As a concluding follow up to the letter by KH published October 27th in this Private Forum we publish the following letter from KH as well as our response...

Last night, thinking I might follow God's Advice and send a wrap-up note to my pastor, I took a look at his e-mail [see October 27th posting] and realized that he had marked it as confidential when he sent it to me.  This was the first I had noticed it.

I have been thinking it over since then, and feel like I would have still handled it the same way had I been aware of his conditional, except that I would have let you know how the e-mail from him had been marked "Confidential".  I realize God DOES know everything and doesn't make any mistakes, but when needed, He allows them -- He even knows all the mistakes I make, as in this case.
 
My opinion is that I don't have an obligation to keep his decision confidential from either you (and the Private Forum readers) -- since The M+G+R Foundation's writings were at the heart of the matter -- or from my other family or friends with whom I have shared your writings.  Actually, I feel just the opposite, and if the opportunity presents, I will explain that to the priest.
 
Sorry for yet another message after all the time you have already spent, but I thought it would be right to let you know what I discovered.
 
KH

A. May the Peace of God lighten your heart!

No mistake was really made.... your oversight was fully allowed by God so that you could earn additional merits before His Throne.

To have shared the information that you did with m de P falls in the category of confessional confidentiality and would not have been a violation of the confidentiality request of your pastor - if he had had the right to request it, a right which he did not have.

Nonetheless - Upon receiving your initial approval, we only published your initials and neither your city nor state were indicated. Neither did we release his name or parish; therefore, even the confidentiality he requested - and certainly did not merit - was not violated.

Nonetheless - with all that said - given the nature of the situation you were not bound to his confidentiality request.

He is passing unfair judgment on you (1) and then he wants you to keep quite about it?  That reminds us of the technique they use when sexually abusing parishioners. Coerce them into silence.

That shows you how ashamed of himself he is - and he certainly should be!

He should be "thanking his stars" - because his belief in God does not seem to "hold much water" - that we respect the privacy of the members of The M+G+R Foundation's family - otherwise we would have published his full name, parish and address and followed it with a letter to his Bishop, the appropriate Curia members at the Vatican, with copies to the media, asking "...if the key condition to safely rape and plunder and remain in communion with "the Church" was to pretend to be 100% submitted to whomever occupies the Chair of Peter" regardless of whom he may be. (2)

May God continue to Bless you!

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(1) Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you go round about the sea and the land to make one proselyte; and when he is made, you make him the child of hell twofold more than yourselves. [Matthew 23:15]
(2)  Truth About Some Popes and About Joseph Ratzinger


From (Mr.) IW @ US - Published on November 1st, 2007 [All Saints Day]

The auto response (1) to the e-mail I sent within the last hour (a reminder to read the Sequence) was attention getting.

I did re-read the Sequence - and suspect that the new auto response is a reminder of the imminence of these events.

All I can do is pray, continue to work as God allows me to on what I understand to be His work for me, and to entrust myself and those who physically depend on me to God's protection: in this world and the world to come.

IW

A.
Obviously the message from Heaven is without doubt.... from Heaven.

Upon reviewing the other e-mail that you sent - realized that you addressed it to: [Private Address] and mgrfoundation@yahoo.com  If memory does not fail me, you have not, in the recent past ("recent past" could even be = "never"), written to mgrfoundation@yahoo.com which is an address we strictly use when posting comments to news reports.

Just two days ago we set up that auto responder because we receive much Spam to that address; Spam which comes with valid return addresses. Thus we thought we would return their Spam with an act of Charity and warn them of what is to come.

As a man who has "wallowed in mathematics" most of his life, I can say that the probabilities of all of this "just clicking into place" unassisted by God are slim to none.

Therefore - either you are part of my NSA Guardian Angels or they better take note of this posting as they monitor what we publish..

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(1) The auto response in question reads:

Greetings!

We kindly refer you to http://www.mgr.org/sequence.html

Please take note.

Many Blessings!

Webmaster


From AQ @ Australia - Published on October 30th, 2007

Sirs in Christ,
 
A simple answer to my question, would be "Yes" or "No" - but I need to have more than this, as my problem  could keep my concentration away from God.

Would it be right for a very, very, holy Priest to
throw the Blue Book of the B.V.M. into the bin.   
 
The title of the book is: "To The Priests Our lady's Beloved Sons"
 
I say, all She is telling us is to repent and Pray, Pray Pray, and then Pray some more.

AQ

A.  The book you refer to is the "handbook" of the Marian Movement of Priests. 

We are happy to have the opportunity to address this issue again.

You will find a very full answer to your question when you review our document Regarding THE MARIAN MOVEMENT OF PRIESTS - Beyond this Document.... There Is Nothing Else We Can Do to Alert the Faithful Further and our other documents associated with it.

May now you be able to keep your concentration and attention in God - the only worthwhile Object of mankind's total attention.


From KH @ USA - Published on October 27th, 2007

As a follow up to my letter posted on October 20th and 21st on your Private Forum:

 The meeting with the parish priest was scheduled and took place.

It seems that this pastor is uncomfortable with being forced to address this matter because it was brought to his attention and because I have not conceded to being "deceived."  I tried to stay focused on Jesus, and kept having to bring the discussion back to the issue at hand.  He was very chatty and all over the place with different anecdotes.  My goal was to find out the exact nature of my violation, what would be the consequences and the process for deciding these consequences.
 
He knows where I stand and it is now up to him as to whether or not, or how quickly, he proceeds with reporting this matter and the results of any decision from the diocese. I hoped that he would conduct his own investigation of my situation, rather than just responding to pressure from another parishioner.
 
He has the response you wrote (Part I) to my letter in the Private Forum.  He read it while I was there.  He also has a copy of my letter to Bishop Baker from January with the link to one of your documents.

A few days later I received the following e-mail from him:

I want to refer you to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 837, and that is my final word.

I feel that you have broken full communion by your not accepting Pope Benedict Sixteenth as the successor of St. Peter and have broken full communion with the church.  It is my earnest desire that you would repent.  The Catechism has spoken and I have no more to say, so I would hope you have come back to full communion with Catholic Church.

To which I responded:

Thank you for helping me through this, and because of much advice provided by you in the past, I think I am keeping it mostly in the proper perspective--the Eternal One.  I will continue to pray about all these matters, for you and for God's Work through you.

Thank you again for all your help and encouragement and may God Bless you.

KH

A.
  Your witness to the Truth - Jesus Christ -  is exemplary.  If the Roman Church Administrators would have given witnessed to the Truth just half as you have done, the world would not have fallen into the abyss "in their watch."

Should we then not wonder why the Roman Catholic Catechism insists that one cannot be "in communion" with the Roman Church  if one does not accept (1) an individual, Joseph Ratzinger, who claims to be the Bishop of Rome, the Successor of Peter,  even though one lives the basic tenets of the Faith?

Quite simple.... If you were satan and were planning to present yourself as the Savior 
(2) - which would be the most credible "launching pad" you would use? The Vatican (3), of course. Who would be the agent preparing his way - the anti John the Baptizer (4)? An individual who claims to be the Bishop of Rome, the Successor of Peter, but who is not.

Then, logically, the Faithful must be brainwashed
(5) to believe that without accepting a particular individual who claims  to be the Successor of Peter, he/she is doomed to eternal damnation which is the equivalent of not being in communion with the allegedly only route to Salvation.

Brethren - it is that simple. That is why hundreds of millions will be deceived and their suffering
(6) will be of apocalyptic magnitude.

What to do then when threatened with the "non in communion" veiled threat?  What would Jesus do?  Exactly what He did when He walked amongst men!

Did He not say:
Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. [Matthew 5: 17]

He was referring, of course, to the basic tenets of the faith as had been manifested so far - which included the teachings of the true prophets God sent before Him.

Even though He called the Temple Masters - the equivalent of The "Pope" of the Temple and his Curia  - every name in the book
(7) and accused them of all sorts of deviations (7) from the teachings of God, He continued to practice His (true) Faith as had been manifested so far until His crucifixion - ignoring the threats of the Spiritual deviants of the time.

You go forth and do likewise for
to you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but them, now like then, seeing they cannot see, and hearing they cannot understand.!


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(1)  From the Roman Catholic Church Catechism :

  837 "Fully incorporated into the society of the Church are those who, possessing the Spirit of Christ, accept all the means of salvation given to the Church
  together with her entire organization, and who - by the bonds constituted by the profession of faith, the sacraments, ecclesiastical government, and communion -
  are joined in the visible structure of the Church of Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. Even though incorporated into the Church,
  one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but 'in body' not 'in heart.'"321

(2) As it is announced in the Holy Word of God - which supersedes any human teaching - The False Christ
(3)  The FalseChrist Launching Pad
(4) The AntiChrist
(5) There IS Salvation outside Rome
(6) Divine Mercy In Action
(7) Jesus Speaks Plainly     i.e. Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you tithe mint, and anise, and cummin, and have left the weightier things of the law; judgment, and mercy, and faith. These things you ought to have done, and not to leave those undone. [Matthew 23:23]



From IW (but of universal scope)  @ USA - Published on October 27th, 2007

Considering that: Prayer as reparation was NOT a part of my catechesis/Christian formation, as a Protestant or as an Eastern Christian.  Reparation is a new idea for me; you are the one who has introduced it to me ... even though prayer as intercession (generically, and without reference to reparation) was a part of my Christian life from the beginning.

1.  Can I offer my own prayers, or worship at a Sacrament, or (involuntary) sufferings in reparation for someone else's sin, and/or for my own?
 
2.  Would the following work?
 
(a) While experiencing some suffering or difficulty, say silently, "Lord Jesus, I offer this up in reparation for the sins of the world, especially those of ___ (if I have a specific person who needs help)."
 
(b) Do the same as (a) above, when starting a prayer sequence, or a devotion (such as the Mercy Chaplet or the Jesus Prayer) or a Church service
 
3.  Does it make sense to pray, if I wish to offer reparations for many people, or for the world as a whole, like this: "Lord Jesus, I offer this ___ up in reparation for the sins of the world; apply Your grace wherever it is most needed?"
 
IW

A.  All of the above, not only is absolutely correct and on target, needed now more than ever.

This is amply covered in our  SUFFERING : MANKIND'S PARTICIPATION IN ITS OWN REDEMPTION - That Was Another "Secret" From Fátima (1) document.

That is the key which is available to all alike in order to minimize the suffering (2) of the world as we sail through the End of These Times. Whether the suffering  is brought upon by a Tsunami (3), or a programmed terrorist attack (4), or uncontrollable by man fires, massive hurricanes such as Katrina (5) and, of course, a nuclear holocaust (6), etc. its level is in our hands.

NOTES______________________________________________________________

(1) Mankind's Participation in its Own Redemption
(2) God will use pain to call our attention if all else fails
(3)  The Tsunami in South East Asia - Some of the reasons for it
(4) The "one conspiracy" front
(5) Katrina - as an example
(6) The Sequence of Events Leading to the End of These Times


From TJ  @ USA - Published on October 25th, 2007

Regarding your recent document (1)....

Yes, indeed it makes sense.  It also explains why as one gets closer to God, one feels the weight of what were previously “small” sins that much more heavily. 

Because before it was not an obvious "turning away from God's grace", since one was not really in it.

The more one is “in the grace”, the more abrupt is the pain and realization that one has voluntarily turned away from it.

TJ

A. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to call to the attention of the Private Forum readers the effect that Divine Light has in exposing our flaws. As we get closer to God that Light becomes brighter and we, mercifully, can see additional areas in our soul which need attention.

The corollary to this is  - of course -  the closer we get to God the stronger the bonds of Divine love are and, the stronger those bonds are, the more painful (2) it is for us when we hurt the loved one.

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(1)  About Men and Angels - Their Fundamental Difference Before Their Fall
(2) A personal version of the Warning


From PP  @ USA - Published on October 22nd, 2007

I can't help but notice the similarities between President Bush and Pope Benedict. Both were/are considered to be conservative/orthodox. However, I believe they both have fooled everyone and will usher in just the opposite.

In Bush's case most people already realize what a phony he is but as far as "the rottweiler of God" most people believe he will usher in the "cleansing of the church" instead of the continuation of cover-up and destruction.

PP

A. You are quite perceptive. The confusion in the minds of most has risen from the interchanging of the words AntiChrist and FalseChrist.  The AntiChrist is a system with an expected religious figure head (1) and a less expected political figurehead plus lesser players (2) ; the FalseChrist is one single individual passing himself off as the real Jesus Christ.

You have identified two key components of the AntiChrist System (3) .   We must all remember that there is only one conspiracy although it may appears as there may be several.  That one conspiracy (4) has only one puppeteer  - satan. Why? So that he may set the stage (5) where he can then manifest himself as the the real Jesus Christ in His Second Coming - Meet the FalseChrist! (6)

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(1) The Religious Figurehead of the AntiChrist System
(2) Some of the Political Figureheads of the AntiChrist System
(3)  President Bush and Opus Dei - just one example
(4) The one conspiracy front
(5) Setting the Stage for the manifestation of the False Christ
(6) Details about the False Christ





From KH  @ USA - Published on October 20th and 21st, 2007

Dearest Miguel,
 
You must really be doing something right.  I just was called into to meet with my pastor after Mass this morning, I was presented with a collection of your articles and asked about my "association" with this "person/organization".

I believe, he finally cautioned me that I'm facing being reported to the bishop/administrator - -with whatever that entails -- as a result of regarding
as truthful what you write.

He related your writings to the group of nuns from Hot Springs who were just excommunicated for following some heretical teachings about the Blessed Mother.
 
I did not have much to say for myself, but since I did not acquiesce, I was relieved of my ministerial duties and I am to "get back" to my pastor after praying about this and "thinking it over."

I am surprised, but also not surprised, and know that it is all under God's Authority and that He Knows Best.

I almost wish I had just said right then and there that I won't be changing my mind, but I thought that would just make it appear that I did not understand the gravity of the matter, so I agreed to pray it over.  I'm trying not to have a "pity party," or take it too seriously.

One funny thing is that I had already written to our (now transferred) bishop and mentioned your work (months ago), and was never called to the carpet about it.  I have also handwritten a note to this pastor on one of your Divine Encouragement printouts -- with full header info -- again, with no repercussions.

It's pretty clear that it is now "someone else" working through one of my fellow congregants who brought this whole matter to where it would be addressed.  I am praying for everyone involved.
 
Thanks for listening.  There are very few I could share this with who would understand as I believe you would.

Keep me in your prayers, please.

KH

A.
Part I

Thank you for allowing to share this letter with those who have access to this new Private Forum.

We must say that this poor disoriented priest is coherent in that he does not know what he is talking about. About the reference to heretical nuns, according to the news report (1):

The nuns are involved with the Community of the Lady of All Nations, better known as the Army of Mary. Catholic authorities say the Quebec, Canada based group elevates the Virgin Mary to the level of God and believes its founder is a reincarnation of the mother of Jesus.

The Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has declared all members of the Army of Mary heretical and automatically excommunicated all who “knowingly” subscribed to its teachings.

Just on that note he is not even worth our - or your - time in setting the record straight. Nonetheless....

He probably thinks that sex abuse of children is a sin against customs
(2) as the Vatican pronounced; that the Successor of Peter is always infallible (3); that the Church Jesus founded rests upon the "Rock" of Peter (4); that all Jews are guilty of crucifying Jesus (5); that the days of pre Vatican II were indeed "the good old days" (5a); that Escriva is a saint (5b); that Emperor Constantine donated the Roman Catholic Church the Roman Empire (5c); that Benedict XVI is a Pope (6); and many other fantasies created to manipulate the masses.

What we state about the Catholic Faith
(7); the importance and great value of the Sacraments (8); the issues that cannot be changed in the Church (9) in spite of popular acclamation for said changes; and the demonstration that when the Catholic Faith is applied according to the teachings of Jesus it works against all odds (10), and other truths will probably go right over his head. To recognize those truths one must have real Faith and not "learned" Faith.

What can we say? He is in the majority; if he and his ilk were not, there would have never been a need for miguel de Portugal
(11) nor for the upcoming razing of the Roman Catholic Church just as the Second Temple and Jerusalem were razed around the year 70 AD, an event for which the French Revolution (12) was just a "warm up session".

Excommunication? He seems to have overlooked that Jesus is the One Who excommunicated them
(13)! One has to be "in" to ask others to "leave".

You may be assured of our payers - but more importantly - you may be assured that God "is in your corner".

You may share this response with that poor soul - you never know, he may listen to Gamaliel
(14) and just wake up in time.
 
miguel de Portugal
+by the Grace of God

(1) http://www.nwanews.com/adg/News/202575/

(2) http://www.mgr.org/SinAgainstCustoms.html
(3) http://www.mgr.org/infallibility.html
(4) http://www.mgr.org/rock.html
(5) http://www.mgr.org/jewsdidnt.html
(5a) http://www.mgr.org/WhatWentWrongPart4.html
(5b) http://www.mgr.org/OpusIndex.html
(5c) http://www.mgr.org/VaticanForgery1.html
(6) http://www.mgr.org/TheAntiChrist.html
(7) http://www.mgr.org/mgrPosition.html
(8) http://www.mgrfoundation.org/OnReconciliationAndOtherMatters.html
(9) http://www.mgr.org/ChangesInTheChurch.html
(10) http://www.mgr.org/BoscoTrajectory.html
(11) http://www.mgr.org/mdep.html
(12) http://www.mgrfoundation.org/FrenchRevolutionAndTheEnd.html
(13) http://www.mgrfoundation.org/JesusJudgesTheAdministration.html
(14)  Acts 5: 34-39


A. Part II [Added on October 21st]

We applaud your courage and effort to do "the right thing" by trying to give some light to that poor man. It appeared that it backfired - but just in appearance. We cannot allow the possibility of "backfiring" to deter us from giving others the opportunity to correct their course before is too late.  We addressed this in a letter/response in Public Forum dated October 5th - and we quote the exchange below:


Remember, give not that which is holy to dogs; neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turning upon you, they tear you. [Matthew 7:6]

JC


A. Yes, Lord, I remember but I do not trust myself - I only trust You. What if I judge someone to be a "swine" or a "dog" and I am wrong?

Knowing the reality of Gamaliel's advice:

Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do, as touching these men. 36 For before these days rose up Gamaliel, affirming himself to be somebody, to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all that believed him were scattered, and brought to nothing. 37 After this man, rose up Judas of Galilee, in the days of the enrolling, and drew away the people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as consented to him, were dispersed. 38 And now, therefore, I say to you, refrain from these men, and let them alone; for if this council or this work be of men, it will come to nought; 39 But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God. [Acts 5]

I rather give them a chance just in case I erred in judgment for, if that someone is indeed a "swine" or a "dog", I take refuge in the truth of Gamaliel's advise and in the fact that You promised:

....He will save me from the fowler's snare and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover me with His feathers, and under His wings I will find refuge; His faithfulness will be my shield and rampart....

....A thousand may fall at my side, ten thousand at my right hand, but it will not come near me.
[Psalm 91]

However, Lord, I do not wish to "...observe with my eyes and see the punishment of the wicked." [Psalm 91]  What I prefer is that those who may be deceived by said "swine" or "dog" see it in time so that they may break lose from their evil spell before is too late.



From KT  @ USA - Published on October 17th, 2007


ONE QUESTION......... I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT THE END NEVER JUSTIFIES THE MEANS.  YET YOU PROPOSED THAT AN EXCEPTION BE MADE FOR THE PEOPLE OF AFRICA FOR THE USE OF CONDOMS TO HELP PREVENT AIDS..... JUST FOR A CERTAIN LENGTH OF TIME!

THIS CONFUSES ME., HOWEVER,   I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS MATTER AS PEOPLE ARE KILLING EACH OTHER.

THEY DO NOT HAVE "EYES TO SEE OR EARS TO HEAR."  HOW CAN ONE JUSTIFY BAD BEHAVIOR BY SAYING SOMEONE IS SICK?

HOW CAN WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO ACCEPT BAD MONEY FOR A GOOD CAUSE , IN LOVE?

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN TO A NON CHRISTIAN THAT GOD ALLOWS BAD THINGS TO HAPPEN?  ACCIDENTS, VICTIMS OF CRIME?

I KNOW WELL OF FREE CHOICE BUT IT DOES NOT CONVINCE A NON-BELIEVER.

FORGIVE ME FOR ALL OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT YOU ARE MY FAMILY AND I TRUST ALL OF YOU AS I KNOW YOU ARE DOING GOD'S WILL AND I BELIEVE IN YOU.

I WISH I HAD 3 MONTHS JUST TO SIT AND LISTEN TO YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU FOR ALL OF YOU PATIENCE, LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING............ ESPECIALLY OF THE WEAK ONES LIKE ME.

IN HIS NAME AND GRACE,

KT


A.
Thank your for writing and sharing your concerns with us.

We also believe, and have frequently said, that the "End does not justify the means", however, we must evaluate each individual situation with the Light of the Holy Spirit to see how we should get from point "A" (living outside the Law of God) to point "B" (living within the Law of God).

The first step is to determine the "Why" of the point "A" and its consequences - short term and long term.

We shall take first the killing of another human being as a point "A" - this is extremely grave under any circumstances : There is no just war; there is no just killing. Logically, point "B" is the stopping of the killing of human beings.

Say that we have an individual who is prone to kill other humans due to X,Y and Z reasons and does so on a regular basis. Maybe he does not know that "Thou shalt not kill" is a real and absolute Divine Law. Obviously he needs to be instructed in Divine Law and needs to be assisted in his conversion - however, in the meantime, he cannot be allowed to go around killing people until "the Evangelization" takes a hold of his soul. He must be stopped for the benefit of others and himself.

Now, let us take up birth control as another point "A" situation.  What is the root problem of artificial birth control? Sexual interaction without responsibility becomes just another sport - where one may even switch partners just as we may do for a tennis match.  The more uneducated the individual is and the less means of entertainment he/she may have, the more he/she will turn to sex and/or drugs as an "entertaining sport".  The more bored a rich and well educated individual gets, the more he/she will also turn to sex and/or drugs as an "entertaining sport".

Promiscuous sex and the use of drugs are the two societal maladies which can harm a soul the most.  Thus, logically God has allowed AIDS. He is more interested in our soul within the overall Eternal picture, than just the brief time it resides in a body on Earth. If some activity is going to gravely harm the soul - He rather take them home soon.
(1)

In the birth control situation - We could then take two positions: (a) Let them destroy themselves and thus "help God"; or (b) Intervene and help them find the way to God in a more natural way.

If we take position (a), it would logically follows, to the derange minds, that all sick and poor people should be exterminated.... and "...by doing this we are doing them a favor and serving God along." (believe it or not, that thinking is "on the table" of the Future Masters of the world.)

If we take position (b), we assist them in not killing each other, through unprotected sexual intercourse, by providing them with the appropriate protection WHILE simultaneously Evangelizing them so that they will abandon the "Outside the Laws of God" lifestyle, i.e.  "Sexual activity is a sport."

In certain countries of Europe they established a "Clean Syringe Program" wherein the drug addicts would turn in their used syringes and get clean ones in ordered to arrest the spread of AIDS through sharing infected syringes. This was done WITHOUT any Evangelization, therefore, what on the surface looked like a very charitable act was indeed contributing to the further degradation of their souls.

This would be the same if we just pass out condoms and do nothing else.

In conclusion:

(a)  Passing out condoms to prevent the spread of AIDS via sexual intercourse - and do nothing else - to save lives cannot be considered as a "means justified by the end" - because we are working against God by helping in the destruction of souls.

(b) Passing out condoms to prevent the spread of AIDS via sexual intercourse - and implement a solid Evangelization program to change the mentality of the individuals through Light and Grace - is a method of "buying time" while the leaven of the kingdom of heaven works its wonders in their souls - thus we are cooperating with God' plan for His children. [The kingdom of heaven is like to leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, until the whole was leavened. [Matthew 13:33]]

Of course, this thinking could degenerate into a philosophical discussion about the difference or equivalence of murdering/killing with a gun, for example, and killing with an AIDS contaminated sexual liaison. However, we must keep in mind that: Death by gunshot is quick and little can be done to draw the soul to God before separation of soul and body. Death through AIDS is slow and much can be done to draw that soul to God before its separation.  Therefore - we cannot compare, nor treat alike, both methods of killing a body.

Your other questions have been answered in different documents in our pages (2).

Regarding what "does not convince a non believer" is completely outside the responsibility of the Elect. We are to take a horse to water, drink of it so that the horse sees that it  quenches our thirst with no ill effects; then, if the horse still refuses to drink, we must allow the horse to die of thirst.  The Elect never were nor will ever be part of the Inquisition crowd.  Their technique would have been "choking the horse to death" while force feeding him water to "keep him alive".

Yes, that is how ridiculous and pathetic the alleged Evangelization has been in the last ca. 1600 years.... and stay tuned, as we have already explained, it will be tried again. (3)

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(1) The near Apocalyptic Climatic and Geological Events Worldwide
(2) Pain is the megaphone....   ,   Divine Mercy in Action - Part I  and Part II 
(3) The striking similarity of the French Revolution with the activities "scheduled" for End of These Times




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